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Harder Hall
Posted: 10 August 2007 11:31 AM  
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wstuff - 10 August 2007 10:20 AM

Walt we all understand your concerns aboud ADA compliance and the costs, you have a great insight into the different services needed, but that just all comes down to money and manpower. What the real question is here is servibability, SAVE this building, by using it for local services money that the city wants to spend in new construction can be utilized to both ends, add so called needed space for local government and save an HISTORIC and landmark building. As for the reader who thought our African American residents would like to see it torn down as a bad memory of servitude I’m sure I could think of a dozen buildings I have worked in and collected a salery from that I would like to see distroyed.It is inconveivable to me that if the city wants to save this landmark building that they can’t find a very viable use for it maybe if we put a moratorium on building for the city govenment they would be more than happy to use the space if they need new facilities so desperatly. I have been in the business of converting food and dairy plants to new process’s and uses and I have never seen a project stopped if a customer really wanted it.

I’m not concerned about ADA, fire protection systems, various building code requirements et al that may be required, depending on the future use of Harder Hall. I only mentioned it as some folks (at this forum and in the papers, etc. suggesting of sorts of desirable uses of the building) may not be aware of the additional costs required/mandated since the time the building was last used. Hence, these costs would have to be factored in and have a bearing on what use would be profitable.

That being said, I would like to see Harder Hall preserved, at least on the exterior. I’m not trying to throw cold water/wet blanket on anything, just pointing out realities. Where there’s a will there’s a way, as the old cliche goes.

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Posted: 10 August 2007 01:53 PM  
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I wasn’t reading the press nor attending city commission meetings way back when, but I really fail to understand WHY the city of Sebring is / was funding any part of the Harder Hall restoration. My feelings are that now that they have stuck their noses in it, and the city taxpayers’ money, the city of Sebring should make good on using the property instead of pawning it off on a tax sale, or auction.

I would like to see private enterprise alone do these restoration projects with no financial aid from city or county governments. This is not to de-value Harder Hall, but to allow private investors the chance to make a project, or fail a project. I listened to the last few city of Sebring commission meetings before the foreclosure, and IMO, the city of Sebring treated the Miami developer badly. Look, the City Commission could have stayed out of the matter financially from the get-go.

But now that the city of Sebring owns the Harder Hall property, they should make use of it - not dump it.

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Posted: 15 August 2007 03:17 PM  
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Walt - 10 August 2007 11:31 AM

I’m not concerned about ADA, fire protection systems, various building code requirements et al that may be required, depending on the future use of Harder Hall. I only mentioned it as some folks (at this forum and in the papers, etc. suggesting of sorts of desirable uses of the building) may not be aware of the additional costs required/mandated since the time the building was last used. Hence, these costs would have to be factored in and have a bearing on what use would be profitable.

I know that the Red & White ball last year (or maybe the year before) was supposed to be held in Harder Hall, and after that was announced the company renovating it begain showing signs of trouble… then the whole project was on hold. Does anyone know for sure how far along the restoration really was? I’ve heard some people quoted as saying that there were not even close (a worker in the paper was quoted as estimating there was still 15 million dollars of work needed on the building) and others saying the inside has been completely redone already and most of what is left is cosmetic…

Bringing a building like that up to code for a hotel, wouldn’t be much different than bringing it up to code for a office building, or any other type of building. Most of these building code requirements would have been covered in the renovation, many of them may already be taken care of… just a thought.

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Posted: 16 December 2007 02:19 AM  
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I vote for, Seminole HARD ROCK Hotel & Casino, Sebring.

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Posted: 28 December 2007 05:41 PM  
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Hey, that would bring some jobs to the area!  wink

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Posted: 17 April 2008 01:21 PM  
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In the meeting that was held yesterday at attorney Mike Swaine office the developers wanted to restore Harder Hall and make it a upscale unassisted living facility and also build a assisted living facility. The city of Sebring gave them another option TEAR IT DOWN and start over again. The developers were under the impression that the city would not allow that to happen and wanted to have the building restored. They were told that the city did not necessarily care one way or the other. So lets get it done one way or the other.

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