[/quoteI hope the IRS is paying close attention to them. They also need to look into why they have full time employees and they are paying them as contract laborers. They have so much yet they can’t provide health insurance or benefits for their employees. The employees are expected to work 6 days a week with no overtime being paid to them. They are robbing the poor people so that they could get rich. Not to mention he drives a Bentley also. He checks the staff’s tithing records to see who is paying tithes and who’s not. At Christmas it is mandatory for the single staff members to contribute $250 and the married ones $500 to buy a Christmas present for the pastors.[/]

I hope the IRS is paying close attention to them as well as some of the many other thieves that steal from the poor and elderly under the banner of selling the “good news”.  The heck with separation of church and state; the IRS needs to know how money is managed in these so called mega churches.

Christians always seem to be surprised when this happens.  We want to trust our pastors.  However, the Bible warns us about false shepherds over and over again.  They are usually very charismatic, but they are also manipulators, deceivers, and only after your money.  They “scatter the sheep” and prey on the weak and helpless.  They kick people out of the church who may disagree with them, or even express a concern.  They refuse to be held accountable to anyone.  They thrive on secrecy, especially when it comes to money.  Their church leadership is always handpicked by the pastor, and they are always “yes men”.  When these people eventually learn the truth, they are labeled as troublemakers and are kicked out of the church.  It is true that these churches are nothing more than cults.  Sadly, this has happened since the beginning of religion, and will continue to the end of times.  I would urge anyone who suspects this may be happening in their own church to go to Biblegateway.com and do a search for “false shepherds”.  Meanwhile, Christians, open your eyes.  A pastor is a shepherd, who takes care of his flock, and not a lord, who sets himself apart and lords over the flock.

Hey Randy...remember me?!

I used to see you all the time in Starbucks. I was always underwhelmed by your greasy appearance and your tricked out Escalade. Then one day, you were leaving at the same time as me. I had a hot cup of coffee in one hand and a toddler holding my other hand. You held the door for me, and when we were all outside, we were confronted with a homeless man asking you and me for money. At that moment, I thought...it will be interesting to see how you handle this one (after all, you claimed to buy that house on Bayshore so that you could invite the Homeless over for Thanksgiving dinner).  Do you remember what you did? You did not even acknowledge the man, left him standing in front of me and my toddler, got into your Escalade, and left. You left me to handle the situation. Thank you very little.

Now, I am not of the mind you should empty your wallet to every begger that comes your way, but I thought you were called to at least minister to those in need.

They will know we are Christians by our love. They will know you, Randy, by your fruits.

I hope they both get what they deserve!!

Randy you said, “Much light attracts bugs.” I don’t see any light coming out of you, just greed. I don’t know if you are going to read this, but I pray to God that if you are going to go on with your plans to open another church in Cali, that God will stop you dead in your tracks if you’re going to take advantage of the poor as well.

Well Hello boys and girls, first they put a guy in girls clothing on for “Mothers Day” and now drag a church thru the Mud on another Sunday. Looks like you are doing a good job of selling papers but the next day the bird knows what to do with it since they all wind up at the bottom of the cage.

I attend Without Walls Church and I love it ,God and I are both are there. And so do several thousand other persons for every service. Sorry that you do not. You do not have to attend. You do not have to hear the Word of God. You do not have to give in any of the offerings. You do not have to assist with your skills or talents in any of the many ways that WWIC gives back into the community, or city, or state, or country, or around the World. You can come and go as you wish no one takes attendance.

So have a wonderful day in the Lord at your church of do nothings which will never do nothing to ever be at risk of being noticed to be Sunday front page item. So Wow! Randy and Paula White are humans, so am I, and so are you.  Like my Momma used to say” If you want to know what goes on in our church just ask anyone who has never been”. See you in church soon. God Bless

Sounds to me like a bunch of disgruntled former church employees or members got a hold of the Tampa Tribune.  In the past, the same reporter who wrote this article (Michelle Bearden) has written more positive articles about Without Walls.  I have been attending Without Walls since 1999 and have never felt obligated to give, and I do give 10% of my pay check as my tithe.  Most of this article is hear-say!  They don’t mention the church members that Bishop Randy paid for them to go through drug rehab, or the waitress that Bishop Randy paid for her son’s school tuition, who didn’t even attend Without Walls. They don’t mention the GED program at the church how they take care of the homeless.  These pastors deserve to live in a mansion and drive the cars they drive.  Pam Iorio gave them the key to the city of Tampa, and the list goes on and on.  I feel the presence of God every time I set foot in Without Walls.  I have voluntarily answered the prayer line phones when the television show airs and did it because I wanted to pray with hurting people, there are so many people who need prayer and the devil would love to shut that door by using this negative article about my pastors.

Going to Church at Without Walls has really changed my life. I pray, read my Bible, know I am saved. I am learning to walk by faith and not fear. I also know that when I am at service at Without Walls I am in Gods presence. The joy, music, teaching is great, awesome. I would not want anyone who is looking for God or thinking about attending this or any church to be tainted by this article.
I write with love in my heart when I tell you that I have read these posted messages and I will pray that you find forgiveness if you feel that you were treated unjustly. Please do not let the past define your future. Please do not be unkind to people you do not even know. Do not talk badly about a daughter sick with cancer and ask why her earthly father does not heal her. How awful, hurtful, just plain mean is that!!
John 8:7 He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone ( It’s in red, Jesus said it)
Matthew 22:37 Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all they heart, and with all they soul, and with all they mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, THOU SHALT LOVE THEY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. (also in red)
If you are thinking I am just some crazy Christian, I guess you are right I am blessed with that.
Randy and Paula, you and your entire family will be in my heart and prayers.

Today the Trib - soon 20/20..........

It is remarkable that these people have managed to stay out of the public eye, as passionately as they have pursued it. What I mean is that they have avoided the revelation of the truth about them and their history, while landing in the spotlight over and over and on such a large scale.

I wonder why those who really know, who remember the paneling on the walls of his 6x8 foot office with the window unit air conditioner when he was a youth pastor after first landing in Tampa, preying on the kids whose parents had some cash. She was teaching Algebra to high school boys, scantily clad in leopard and lace, working out at Shapes after work, not scrubbing toilets for money like her autobiography claims. They lived in a comfortable home, paid for and furnished by the first set of gullible groupies.

They showed up in a beat up Ford tempo with a burnt up clutch and a 5x8 UHaul - she had a child that was 4 or 5 - hear he may be hanging with the boys at Juliard these days - he didn’t belong to Randy, but they lied about that to everyone.

He left 3 young children behind with his first wife and family to escape the truth about their adulterous affair that eventually led to thier marriage.

Paula told her very young son refer to his biological father by his first name in public, he obeyed, not understanding this deception at 4.

They blew out on their contract at the church where they were employed in Tampa, found some humble people with some money and moved 12 metal chairs on top of carpet that the first 15 parishoners laid in a store front on Gandy. That is how it began.......a few years and many broken hearts and relatioships later, the congregation bought her first mercedes for pastor appreciation day. It has been crazy ever since.

Don’t know about this trailer in Mississippi she talks about. When confided in by her I was told that her step father was a high ranking official at the pentagon before committing suicide. She was a competitive gymnast and popular in high school - and lived a priviledged life. Her mother who the last I knew had a serious drinking problem, is virtually a phantom now.

The mention of “Mother Ruth” in the paper is dispicable. That woman handed Paula her silver the night her elderly husband died, never missed a service in any of their four sanctuaries. They used her and have left her all alone and broke - that is enough for Paula to be humbled for.

There have literally been hundreds of faithful friends and servants, come into their lives, only to be used, abused and discarded, excommunicated. There were so many I lost count....B and J, V and I, B, LB, D and S S., J and R, H and E, ......C and S. T. WHAT are you still doing with these people?

In their wake have been the weak and poor, the misguided and the needy.

The saddest part of all is that I remember like it was yesterday the first pink box truck. Randy and Paula riding into the projects and passing out serial at sidewalk Sunday school. They would visit your home when your mother was sick, and open their doors to vulnerable children seeking truth.

I wonder now, looking at the radically remade plastic surgery aaddicted, St John, diamond, rolex dripping arrogant celebrity that SHE has become as a result of purely SELF promotion and wonder....How did this happen??

Every entry I read attacks Randy, who comes from good stock, precious faithful God fearing parents and very forgiving children - he is at heart probably a good and decent human - certainly more real than she.

She is the epitomy of superficiality, and almost positively engaged in yet another adulterous home-wrecking affair - (yee-haw) - look to the west and you will find what is on the Horizon.

I hear these fine and good Aafrican Americans who populate their congregation and share residency with me in Tampa, and they seem to admire, condone, and respect this woman who once told me that she was “thrilled to get out of D.C......nothin’ but N------ there”!!!!!! and I would swear that on a stack of Bibles. I hear her preaching with the dialect of a southern black and want to throw up, literally. She is a liar and a hypocrit and a phony and a fraud. Let her son bring home an African American boy or girl and see what she does......her step children know, she already fought that fight once and spoke of it as a “disgrace to their family” - paralleled only by her willingness to betray the Whites and help land Randy’s favorite Uncle in prison.......

I understand she is entirely disengaged from the suffering of Randy’s daughter - Why he pretends she cares is beyond me -

Randy, I believe in you and the calling on your life, from you rmermaid tatoo, to your freaky porcelain veneers, you come from good and Godly people - just get back there - let her have her celebrity, the Kingdom needs you.

Paula, if you ever knew Jesus at all - get on your knees and beg Him for forgiveness, he is the only one that can restore you now.

first uncle w---e is in jail because thats where he belongs. second i once heard someone say and i quote “ whatever is done in darkness will come to light”.

I attend Without Walls International Church and I need to give you what the newspaper doesn’t because it does not sell papers. We feed countless homeless people every week. We go out into the inner city and minister to children. I witness lives changed. I witness love flowing. We hosted a pampering day for single moms this past week. There so much going on for the community that there is not enough pages in this sorry newspaper to print.
In all your getting, get an understanding. The word of God says, Touch Not my Anointed and Do my Prophets NO HARM. It also says that No weapon formed against thee will prosper and every tongue that rises against thee will fall.
As a tithing member of WWIC, I must say this. Each of you that commented attacking either Pastor Randy or Pastor Paula, be careful of what you say. Repent. All of you claiming to be “hurt” by this church must not have been in the church for the right reasons. Our leaders are MEN and WOMEN. They are not perfect. Are you??? I know I am not. It is not my place to judge. It is not my place to gossip. And it is not yours!!!! If you are a beliver, pray. I would imagine that the words that have been spoken here may hurt my spiritual father and mother. But I also know that they are strong in the Lord. I don’t care if what has been written is true or false. I stand by my leadership. I stand by my personal relationship with Christ, not with man. Who are you standing next to or leaning on? Who do you trust? Trust in GOD and lean not on YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING!!!
Father God in the name of Jesus,
We come before you Lord asking for strength for Bishop Randy White and Pastor Paula White. We lift them up before you as your son and daughter. Lord place people of strength around them to gird them up in the Spirit. I bind up every demonic word that has been spoken over their lives and cancel every evil plot the enemy has planned. I speak healing and knowledge to the body of WWIC. Lord let not the babbling of unbelievers shake the believer, but let us stand firmly on the Word of God, trusting in You. The Alpha and Omega. Let out focus be on you and not on man. We are mindful to give you all the honor and the glory. In Jesus Name, Amen

Uneeka

Remember there are three sides to every story; yours, mine & the truth.  I have been attending WW for about two years.  So I can offer a viewpoint of more experience than most of you; but less than some of the long standing ex members.  I had previously been a member of Idlewild Baptist Church for 8 years & grown to feel that denomination &/or chuch is too judgemental of others.  After visiting many other churches, I finally went to WW for the first time.  As soon as my feet touched the ground I felt God’s annointing.  Ever since, I have majorly benefited from the healing and restoration message they preach every week.  Nomatter what anyone says; God’s hand is evidently on them when they preach.  They truly speak to the downtrodden & hurting.  They clearly present to everyone God’s continual uncondtional love.  I also am amazed of all the work they do in the ghetto.  I don’t see any other churches out there trying to better that culture.  I have volunteered in that ministry myself & am blown away by the magnitude of the size of the task & the way WW faithfully sends in it’s members every week; building relationships with the children and then taking buses out to pick up these same children & their families for church on Sundays.  These are poor people and they don’t have any big money to give.  I as a single mom only have my tithe to offer and I am not always able to give that.  I would have liked to see detail in the article of all the ministries they support.  I think it was unfair not to mention that.  I think a lot of their money comes from wise past & present business deals.  We all are personally responsible to seek after God’s face when we give & do what He prompts us to do.  I don’t allow myself to feel pressure from anyone.  I do not care if they have plastic surgery although I personally don’t think I ever would.  We have all made mistakes in our past & that includes them which they often admit. Having said all of that, I do at times think they push the money issue more than they should.  I believe we should give tithes & offerings; but beyond that I think they sometimes go too far.  I stay because I agree with all of their other philosophies and I believe in their mission more than any other church.  I have been a part of many other churches in Tampa for the last 36 years & you can never fully agree on 100% of everything.  As long as I see them helping others like they do now, I trust that God will expose any wrong doing & that He will show the Whites if they need to make any restitutions.  In the end it all comes down to answering to God anyway.  He will deal with all of us as He sees fit.  My final word is that there are plenty of scripture verses that state we are under authority; meaning God’s, our pastors, our bosses, etc. and we need to often consult God to make sure we stay in balance with that.

WWIC is the Perfect Church for People That Aren’t.  We are being led by people. People are imperfect. God is showing His grace and mercy through them.  Through their testimony.  The things is the past are JUST THAT!!! The past!  Remember Lot’s wife.  Give us some facts for TODAY.  What happened in the past is covered under the blood.  This couple touches so many lives. The poor, the unloved, the forgotten.  They are anointed in teaching and preaching!  Called and appointed for such a time as this.  Write a little about that! 

My name is Frederic Jay and I often avoided Christains because their walk did not line up with their talk.  I am at WWIC because I see the Luke 4:18 works happening at this church!  We are a church WITHOUT WALLS!! We are a church on highways and byways. We are the church that is We are the church ministering to the ex drug dealers, the pimps, the strippers, the prostitute.  in the inner city ministering to the children. We are the church ministering to the broken mother.  We are the church ministering to the LOST!!!  We are walking in the calling that God placed on all of us!

Woe to the man that touches a man of God.

Let us recall the woman that was caught in the very act of adultry!  Jesus stopped and wrote in the sand. Although the word does not state what Jesus wrote, I imagine that He wrote down their sins.  As you may recall, if you read the word, Jesus said, “He that is without sin, let Him cast the first stone.” DROP YOUR ROCKS. 

Life and death are in the power of the tongue. Speak life. 

Mom, Dad: I am not going no where!  I know that you are called by God to do this work! 
Just like Arron held up the hands of Moses, I shall hold up your hands.

Love,
Fredrick Jay, MPIP student Group 4

I see nothing wrong with those who believe that W/O Walls is their salvation (and for some, it probably is regardless of the price).  It’s no different than the person who buys $100 in Florida Lottery Tickets hoping for the hundred million in return.  But, the Tribune missed the real story and that one is back in Ft. Washington not in Tampa.  So they exaggerate their past, what’s the other option?  Thomas Jefferson rewrote the Bible (he said he just edited out the myths and fables...i.e., 90% of the original text).  Randy and Paula merely put the myths and fables into a new context (their autobiographies).  I was very impressed with the fact that the Church was the one that is purchasing Randy and Paula’s books, DVDs, etc. ($900,000 last year according to the audit).  That’s one very clever accounting trick to insure the books sell, keeps the money out of the salaries account, and might even put the books into a best seller list somewhere. PT Barnum had a phrase about “suckers being born every minute” but he still knew how to put on a good show and always drew a big crowd.  Randy refers to his flock as sheep, perhaps with a grin.

xxxxx