ALL religious holidays should be banned.
the U.S. has the “separation of church and state” law so why the hell are we celebrating religious holiday’s in the first place-?
ALL religious holidays should be banned.
the U.S. has the “separation of church and state” law so why the hell are we celebrating religious holiday’s in the first place-?
Dave, totally ba-humbug.
smile when you say that.
As much as I would love to agree with you, that concept is in fact, not true. The First Amendment reads:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The whole idea of the separation of church and state comes from a letter written by then President Jefferson to the Danbury Connecticut Baptist Association in an effort to support the First Amendment.
Well, you have to be kidding?? The law or observed holidays do not discriminate against anyone. Atheists only fabricate their own insecurities. If Christians and Jews have holidays (historically bound, I might add) then why doesn’t the atheist create their own. Maybe because they are such a small, pea-brained, and insignificant minority, no one cares. If they took a day off from work once or twice a year, I mean, what’s the big deal. Their intellectual contributions probably would not be missed for a week or two, let alone for one day.
Just don’t throw it in my face when I do and I have a lot more claim to holidays than some half baked atheist does. Further, don’t waste taxpayer money in the courts.
That is the trouble in this country, we have started to capitulate to every bad-mouthing, sad talking, self-promoting minority in the name of “political correctness”. I, for one, am tired of it. No one discriminates against atheist and their lack of holidays, because, well, that’s what it is, a lack of holidays. Dream up you own holiday and we’ll all observe it. I can use another day away from work!
The truth be told, I cannot understand how the courts ever decided against such American institutions as prayer and pledge of allegiance in the schools. Our kids(the vast majority) are not being taught religion, morals, virtue, and patriotism in the schools because of such a small number of the minority. Believe me, it shows. Look at the statistics since the first rounds of court cases went to the atheists...disrespect and moral decay of the majority of today’s youth.
My advice to those atheist who want to dictate to the rest of us...Get Some Religion..any religion.
Well, you have to be kidding?? The law or observed holidays do not discriminate against anyone. Atheists only fabricate their own insecurities. If Christians and Jews have holidays (historically bound, I might add) then why doesn’t the atheist create their own. Maybe because they are such a small, pea-brained, and insignificant minority, no one cares. If they took a day off from work once or twice a year, I mean, what’s the big deal. Their intellectual contributions probably would not be missed for a week or two, let alone for one day.
Just don’t throw it in my face when I do and I have a lot more claim to holidays than some half baked atheist does. Further, don’t waste taxpayer money in the courts.
That is the trouble in this country, we have started to capitulate to every bad-mouthing, sad talking, self-promoting minority in the name of “political correctness”. I, for one, am tired of it. No one discriminates against atheist and their lack of holidays, because, well, that’s what it is, a lack of holidays. Dream up you own holiday and we’ll all observe it. I can use another day away from work!
The truth be told, I cannot understand how the courts ever decided against such American institutions as prayer and pledge of allegiance in the schools. Our kids(the vast majority) are not being taught religion, morals, virtue, and patriotism in the schools because of such a small number of the minority. Believe me, it shows. Look at the statistics since the first rounds of court cases went to the atheists...disrespect and moral decay of the majority of today’s youth.
My advice to those atheist who want to dictate to the rest of us...Get Some Religion..any religion.
Thank you, thank you!! I thought I was out here all by myself!!
"The truth be told, I cannot understand how the courts ever decided against such American institutions as prayer and pledge of allegiance in the schools.”
SH: Well at least you’re honest that you don’t understand basic American civics. Good first step towards enlightenment.
“The truth be told, I cannot understand how the courts ever decided against such American institutions as prayer and pledge of allegiance in the schools.”
SH: Well at least you’re honest that you don’t understand basic American civics. Good first step towards enlightenment.
Your parents must not have taught you common courtesy and respect little boy. You’ll learn, that as you grow up, people will listen more and your message will be more effective when it’s delivered with even basic good manners. And if you do that, respect is what you’ll receive in return.
So, the next time your parents are trying to teach you something, please listen. Because no one likes a bully!
A lot of the pain and badness that has happened on this planet has been in the name of a god. Cities put to the sword (crusades), the spanish inqusition, burning witches, killing infidels, etc etc ad naseum. Granted there has been good with religion, but with history as it’s judge, more blood has been spilled than has been saved.
I must admit other than a little nana boo boo, you both seemed to keep things quite civil regarding a very emotional subject. I have just recently become involved in these forums and enjoy everyons opinion especially you two, katerpunk, and nightbiker. You are all very thoughtful and intelligent people and your comments always make me think which in my opinion is the whole reason for these forums. I just think it’s great that we can do this without offending anyone and I hope I can continue to enjoy reading all your comments for a long time!
A lot of the pain and badness that has happened on this planet has been in the name of a god. Cities put to the sword (crusades), the spanish inqusition, burning witches, killing infidels, etc etc ad naseum. Granted there has been good with religion, but with history as it’s judge, more blood has been spilled than has been saved.
And in this friend, I most unfortunately have to agree with you.
At the present time however, it is not the Christians who are making life unbearable around the world, nor has it been the case for many years now. Christianity for the most part (exluding any individual extremists) stopped the warring and killing madness centures ago.
The ironic thing is, that it is not only ‘competing’ faiths that war against each other, there is even ‘war’ with those who have NO religion!
Ireland’s Protestant vs. Catholic war seems to be settling down but it hasn’t been years ago. Hopefully that hatred will end permanently. I could never understand that nonsense.
Ireland’s Protestant vs. Catholic war seems to be settling down but it hasn’t been years ago. Hopefully that hatred will end permanently. I could never understand that nonsense.
You’re right. Although come to think of it, I thought that ended back around the 80’s. But just can’t remember for sure.
The replies seem to have gotten off the track. The discussion is about atheists.
But while I’m at it, consider this…
Wars have been fought over religion or economics, or sometimes one disguised as the other. Wars have mostly been because of greed and the acquisition of power. How much can I have if I control most of the known world and its riches?
Even our own civil war was fought because of economics. Slavery was a sidebar, but the real issue was the economic restrictions placed on the agricultural south, not religion.
The latest Irish Rebellion tended to align religions against one another, but it was not the true cause. Desire to re-unite the two halves was the real cause.
But, back to the atheists...they still should invent their own holidays, then they can’t complain about ours.
On second thought, they don’t have any religion, so how can they have their own religious holidays...they lose, again! HA
The replies seem to have gotten off the track. The discussion is about atheists.
But while I’m at it, consider this…
Wars have been fought over religion or economics, or sometimes one disguised as the other. Wars have mostly been because of greed and the acquisition of power. How much can I have if I control most of the known world and its riches?
Even our own civil war was fought because of economics. Slavery was a sidebar, but the real issue was the economic restrictions placed on the agricultural south, not religion.
The latest Irish Rebellion tended to align religions against one another, but it was not the true cause. Desire to re-unite the two halves was the real cause.
But, back to the atheists...they still should invent their own holidays, then they can’t complain about ours.
On second thought, they don’t have any religion, so how can they have their own religious holidays...they lose, again! HA
Wars have been fought for many reasons, throughout the centuries. Whether it be for religious reasons or for power and greed. From the Crusades in the middle ages, to World War ll.
But the fact that ANY war has been fought in the name of religion is a tragedy I believe. Look at the troubles the world has today. MUCH of it is religion based!
The topic, if you can call it that, is in fact originally just a joke. Literally. Then the topic turned into a “what if this really happened” debate.
Sometimes threads go off topic a little, sometimes alot. But that’s ok with me.
“Wars have been fought for many reasons, throughout the centuries. Whether it be for religious reasons or for power and greed. From the Crusades in the middle ages, to World War ll.
But the fact that ANY war has been fought in the name of religion is a tragedy I believe. Look at the troubles the world has today. MUCH of it is religion based!
The topic, if you can call it that, is in fact originally just a joke. Literally. Then the topic turned into a “what if this really happened” debate.
Sometimes threads go off topic a little, sometimes alot. But that’s ok with me. ”
You’re right, of course, about all wars being a tragedy..
You’re also right about the world situation of today. But think about it, it isn’t the vast majority of “other religious people” causing the turmoil. It happens to be the small MINORITY. That, too, is unfortunate, as there are peace-loving people on both sides of the world’s situations. But the middle-east situation, again, has a religious tag on it, but isn’t it because of greed and power? Sunnis lost power, Shiites got power, now they are fighting to reverse the situation, again. One religious group fights another, for what? POWER!
