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Posted: 21 May 2008 03:58 PM  
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This country has wasted the past 30 years with NO energy policy to encourage alternative fuels, encourage drilling, refining, whatever. Bush spoke against raising CAFE standards, yet it passed into law, recently.

Learn to live with it? Yes, that is the only option. I drive U.S. 27; still see the gas hogs with their aggressive driving, jack rabbit starts and stops, and driving like a bunch of morons.. Pity? I have pity for the working poor who have to spend an arm and a leg for gasoline to get back and forth to some low-paying job, while the fat cats continue to ride the big hummers and SUVs, and complain because their Escalade costs more to fill up than it used too. Far too many super-sized vehicles with ONE occupant speeding up and down U.S.27.

I am not going to comment on this again anytime soon. I am fed up with it. I drive fewer than 3500 miles a year in a compact car. It’s the younger families out there that deserve a break, and some pity.

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Posted: 21 May 2008 04:12 PM  
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Been_There_Done_That - 21 May 2008 03:58 PM

This country has wasted the past 30 years with NO energy policy to encourage alternative fuels, encourage drilling, refining, whatever. Bush spoke against raising CAFE standards, yet it passed into law, recently.

Learn to live with it? Yes, that is the only option. I drive U.S. 27; still see the gas hogs with their aggressive driving, jack rabbit starts and stops, and driving like a bunch of morons.. Pity? I have pity for the working poor who have to spend an arm and a leg for gasoline to get back and forth to some low-paying job, while the fat cats continue to ride the big hummers and SUVs, and complain because their Escalade costs more to fill up than it used too. Far too many super-sized vehicles with ONE occupant speeding up and down U.S.27.

I am not going to comment on this again anytime soon. I am fed up with it. I drive fewer than 3500 miles a year in a compact car. It’s the younger families out there that deserve a break, and some pity.

Yes, the high gasoline prices haven’t slowed down many drivers. Just last week I made two trips down and back to S.W. International Airport. I was passed by many big gas hogs (expensive full sized SUVs) blowing by me on I-75. That’s why I proposed the additional fines (earlier posting) on those folks that could care less about wasting fuel, just because they have the big bucks to pay for it.

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Posted: 29 May 2008 04:23 PM  
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I have been going to http://www.floridastategasprices.com for some time now.  The main page has a list of the lowest and highest gas prices in Florida.  The highest and lowest info is interesting but usually does not have anywhere local listed.  The website also has a map feature that you can use to find the cheapest gas in the county you are in which is pretty useful.  Not all gas stations are listed, but it’s worth a look for those that are interested.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 10:22 AM  
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Oil: Behind the Big Numbers

At first, the fact that Exxon Mobil scored the biggest quarterly profit for any company in history may seem like the central (and maddening) point of Thursday’s press release, but looking past the top number shows several more interesting items.

First off, that record $11.68 billion is less than expected, sending Exxon Mobil’s shares down on Wall Street. Why did they underperform the analyst’s expectations?  Well, with rising oil prices come rising amounts of overseas strife.

Production tumbled 7.8 percent after assets were seized in Venezuela, Nigerian workers went on strike and record prices triggered contract clauses that give oil-rich governments a bigger share of output.

Countries that are selling oil—from Russia to Iran—are getting richer as the prices climb, and they see less and less reason to give any of their wealth to the big international companies. Exxon Mobil, like other companies, finds that their leverage is slipping.

But there’s an even more interesting calculation at work. While Exxon Mobil was cranking out record profits on oil production, its refineries were actually bringing in less money than last year.  Why?

Profits from its refining business totaled $1.6 billion in the quarter, less than half of what they were last year. ... Oil prices in the quarter were nearly twice as high as the same time last year, while gasoline prices were an average of nearly 30% higher.

Oil prices doubled, but the price of the biggest product produced from oil didn’t follow suit. Exxon was unable to maintain the same margins on their refining business that they have in the past. And there’s a good reason for that.

Americans drove 9.6 billion fewer miles in May 2008 than in May 2007, according to federal data released Monday. The 3.7 percent decline was the third-largest monthly drop in the 66 years the Department of Transportation has been collecting the data.

For decades, gasoline has been considered a commodity that lives by its own special rules. In a country that was designed around highways, gas was required to get Americans to work, school, and stores.  It wasn’t fungible, and demand wasn’t tightly coupled to price. Whatever they asked for it, Americans would be forced to pay.

As it turns out, that’s not entirely true. The sharp decline in miles driven and even sharper turn away from low mileage vehicles shows that gas is not a product untouched by pricing. $4 gas turned out to be enough to make Americans simply park it.  Which, paired with increasingly bad signs in the economy, was enough to spur a retreat in the price of oil. If the increased price of oil had been directly reflected at the pump this year, we’d be looking at $6 gas—and likely taking actions that would put Exxon’s future in serious doubt. They took lower profits at the refineries because they had to.

Even more interesting is where Exxon spent its money.

On an earnings-per-share basis, Exxon made $2.22. That was still lower than analysts had expected, but 24% higher than last year, a gain Exxon attributed to its aggressive stock buyback plan.

And where it didn’t.

“While oil companies are earning record profits and gas prices are soaring, the largest oil companies have invested more resources in stock buybacks than U.S. production,” said Congressional Democrats in a press release shortly after Exxon announced its earnings.

Other critics charge the oil companies with deliberately restricting production in an attempt to keep prices high.

The industry says it’s investing as much as it can in finding new oil, but is having a hard time given the shortage of workers and equipment in the sector.

Notice that Exxon’s complaint is a lack of workers and equipment, not a shortage of places to drill as the GOP would have you believe. The fact is, they’re producing all that they can, and aiming their platforms at the most likely locations. Neither tax breaks nor scads of new leases would have any significant effect.

But hey, let’s declare GOP Magical Fairy Drilling Day and say that suddenly there’s a drilling platform for every potential reserve out there.  What could we get?

It’s hard to say just how much oil is there, but estimates compiled by CNNMoney.com from various government agencies indicate crude oil production could be increased between 1 and 3 million barrels per day.

Since it’s GOP Magical Fairy Drilling Day, let’s be generous and go with the top number.  And lets assume, since those GOP magical fairies have plenty of magical powder on hand, that a mere ten years from now all that production comes on line all at once.  Happy days, right?

Wrong.  The US currently produces about 5 million barrels a day, which makes another 3 look like a big increase.  But US production is in a sharp decline.  Even if we held the 5 million/day level, adding in another 3 million would put us well below US production back in 1970, and far short of anything that would make a dent in our dependence on foreign oil. Imports increased 3.5 million barrels a day between 1990 and 2000 alone. If there were unlimited drill rigs, if there were unlimited resources for oil infrastructure, if every potential reserves performs at the high end of prediction, a strategy of “drill more” means we would still be importing more oil at the end of the decade, not less.

And that’s all GOP magic fairy land. In reality, opening up every single area for drilling, and doing it today, won’t even be enough to stop the steady decrease in US production. This production would come on line over a period of decades, during which other fields would fall off the radar. It won’t even make a blip in the decline. You might as well try to save a sinking boat by drilling holes in the hull to let the water out.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 10:26 AM  
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Oil: Behind the Big Numbers - Part two

Here’s reality: between 1970 and 1980, oil prices increased far more sharply than they did between 2000 and today. During that period, the US got a vivid demonstration of how vulnerable we were to the availability of imported oil. In that decade, the Trans-Alaskan Pipeline was completed and the largest US oil field in history came on line. The executive order banning offshore exploration was still more than a decade in the future. So what happened to US production?  It fell over a million barrels a day. Of course, some of the exploration in that decade didn’t really make it to the pumps until the 1980s… when production fell another million barrels a day. Or maybe the 1990s, when it was down another million. Over all that time, US dependence on foreign oil increased.

We can repeat that pattern. If we make “drill more” the centerpiece of our strategy, we mimic the 1970s, handing over more control of our economy and national security to foreign powers.  “Drill more” and “import more” are two sides of the same coin.

Or we can focus our efforts on getting away from oil, and turn the money that would go digging our current hole even deeper toward climbing out of the hole entirely.  We can do that… if we don’t get stupid. For 2008, it’s the energy, stupid.

And thinking that opening up more areas for drilling will help really is stupid.

Let’s be smart instead, by helping implement plans like Energize America http://www.ea2020.org/drupal/
and through supporting EnergySmart candidates http://www.actblue.com/page/energysmart,
and through not making “compromises” that amount to buying into a lie.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 11:40 AM  
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I’m all for the development of clean, renewable energy sources. However, that is going to take time, and in the meantime we must have oil to fuel our economy.

I want a quid pro quo: No drilling off-shore, ANWR, Colorado oil shale, etc., unless there’s a mandate to develop alternative fuels in equal proportion to the oil being extracted domestically. Further, I want CAFE standards increased dramatically.

While some may not want domestic drilling, at least the money for that oil stays in the US, and not in the hands of despots.

Again, I agree we need to wean ourselves of fossil fuels, but that is not going to happen anytime soon. We must compromise for the health of our country and national security.

And further, as fossil fuel (gasoline and diesel) goes, so does federal and state tax revenues (of course they will then tax to oblivion clean and renewable energy sources to make up the difference).

It might behoove those not-in-the-know, that federal, state, local, and excise taxes on gasoline and diesel is far and away greater than what the oil companies make in profit! This fact seems to elude the criticisers of big oil profits (not that I like big oil profits, just tying to be fair and objective here).

Further, from all googled sources I’ve consulted, the oil companies make approximately 8-10 cents/gallon of gasoline/diesel. Yet, the federal gasoline tax is 18.4 cents (and the feds want to raise that by another .10 cents! A whopping 54% increase!)

And still further, by deduction, if the oil companies decided not to take any profits on a gallon of gasoline or diesel, that would only reduce the cost of a gallon of gasoline by .10 cents a gallon. So logically, IMO, I don’t see where the oil companies’ profits is such a big deal. .10 cents profit on a market item (one gallon of gasoline) that retails for $4.00 doesn’t seem absurd and outrageous to me.

Check the gasoline tax figures here:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/1139.html

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Posted: 03 August 2008 09:07 PM  
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I understand that today, McCain has proposed offering a tax deduction for consumers who are willing to convert to nitrogen inflated tires based on the projected increase in fuel efficiency of 3 -4 miles per gallon with use. This is just one small part of his overall energy plan but for a change it sounds like he is putting something cogent together. tongue wink

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Posted: 03 August 2008 09:37 PM  
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wassup - 03 August 2008 09:07 PM

I understand that today, McCain has proposed offering a tax deduction for consumers who are willing to convert to nitrogen inflated tires based on the projected increase in fuel efficiency of 3 -4 miles per gallon with use. This is just one small part of his overall energy plan but for a change it sounds like he is putting something cogent together. tongue wink

I sure hope the arguments that resulted on another thread about nitrogen filled tires stay on that thread.......  wink

Do you know if McCain is proposing a tax credit or deduction?  Usually deductions don’t do any good for those who don’t itemize their deductions.  Seems like he’d get more people making the switch if it is a straight tax credit.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 10:03 PM  
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katlady - 03 August 2008 09:37 PM

wassup - 03 August 2008 09:07 PM
I understand that today, McCain has proposed offering a tax deduction for consumers who are willing to convert to nitrogen inflated tires based on the projected increase in fuel efficiency of 3 -4 miles per gallon with use. This is just one small part of his overall energy plan but for a change it sounds like he is putting something cogent together. tongue wink

I sure hope the arguments that resulted on another thread about nitrogen filled tires stay on that thread.......  wink

Do you know if McCain is proposing a tax credit or deduction?  Usually deductions don’t do any good for those who don’t itemize their deductions.  Seems like he’d get more people making the switch if it is a straight tax credit.

I read that other thread which is why I interjected this here. wink I didn’t want to get directly involved in that. As I understood it though, it was a deduction which doesn’t surprise me. But then again, I think that if you are not in the top 5% in income it is in your best interests to vote for the Democrats this time around. When the Republicans redefine themselves, perhaps I will go back.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 10:21 PM  
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Wow.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 10:42 PM  
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OK, I was just ribbing Walt. I feel like I just announced that visitors from outer space have invaded us. Its not true! red face

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Posted: 03 August 2008 10:53 PM  
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Hahaha!

McCain’s Lexington Project is something to read though.  He’s fairly open when it comes to finding alternative sources of energy to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, and that’s pretty admirable. 

http://www.johnmccain.com//Informing/Issues/17671aa4-2fe8-4008-859f-0ef1468e96f4.htm

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Posted: 03 August 2008 11:08 PM  
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I didn’t know you were a McCain supporter. Well, so is Walt, so you two keep going at each other while we Democrats get control of Congress and the Presidential office.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 11:14 PM  
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wassup - 03 August 2008 11:08 PM

I didn’t know you were a McCain supporter. Well, so is Walt, so you two keep going at each other while we Democrats get control of Congress and the Presidential office.

I am NOT a McCain supporter.  I’m a registered Democrat.  All I was saying is that it’s admirable for a Republican to have an environmental side.  I’m not sure if that’s because he’s a liberal Republican, or he’s trying to appeal to the environmentalists. 

Please don’t read into what I say.  They’re just comments.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 11:33 PM  
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I misunderstood, sorry about that. We Democrats have got to stick together, the race is getting tight.

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