Don’t know exactly what happened. I’ve heard different stories.
I’ve also seen some pretty belligerent old people as well. I saw the news clip, and the Granny came off as some sweet old lady. I doubt very seriously that’s how she acted on the night in question.
Should the cop have arrested her? Don’t know. If she absolutely refused to move, and absolutely refused what the police was requesting of her, then yes. Even grandma is not immune to discipline!
Don’t know exactly what happened. I’ve heard different stories.
I’ve also seen some pretty belligerent old people as well. I saw the news clip, and the Granny came off as some sweet old lady. I doubt very seriously that’s how she acted on the night in question.
Should the cop have arrested her? Don’t know. If she absolutely refused to move, and absolutely refused what the police was requesting of her, then yes. Even grandma is not immune to discipline!
Discipline? Cops are not there to discipline. The Courts discipline.
Don’t know exactly what happened. I’ve heard different stories.
I’ve also seen some pretty belligerent old people as well. I saw the news clip, and the Granny came off as some sweet old lady. I doubt very seriously that’s how she acted on the night in question.
Should the cop have arrested her? Don’t know. If she absolutely refused to move, and absolutely refused what the police was requesting of her, then yes. Even grandma is not immune to discipline!
Discipline? Cops are not there to discipline. The Courts discipline.
Yes, disciplined. Just as a child is spanked or sent to time out, granny was in fact disciplined. And she may well have deserved it.
Don’t know exactly what happened. I’ve heard different stories.
I’ve also seen some pretty belligerent old people as well. I saw the news clip, and the Granny came off as some sweet old lady. I doubt very seriously that’s how she acted on the night in question.
Should the cop have arrested her? Don’t know. If she absolutely refused to move, and absolutely refused what the police was requesting of her, then yes. Even grandma is not immune to discipline!
Discipline? Cops are not there to discipline. The Courts discipline.
Yes, disciplined. Just as a child is spanked or sent to time out, granny was in fact disciplined. And she may well have deserved it.
His actions can only result in spending more of my tax dollars. It will be expensive to hire and train his replacement.
I’m sure the young man’s personnel file will reflect comment’s about him not being able to control his emotions and the effect that has on the department. Public employees should have enough judgment to realize that blocking a hamburger drive thru, doesn’t warrant physically removing a mouthy old lady.
He’ll understand discipline, when he’s guarding some empty bank on the night shift.
Don’t know exactly what happened. I’ve heard different stories.
I’ve also seen some pretty belligerent old people as well. I saw the news clip, and the Granny came off as some sweet old lady. I doubt very seriously that’s how she acted on the night in question.
Should the cop have arrested her? Don’t know. If she absolutely refused to move, and absolutely refused what the police was requesting of her, then yes. Even grandma is not immune to discipline!
Discipline? Cops are not there to discipline. The Courts discipline.
Yes, disciplined. Just as a child is spanked or sent to time out, granny was in fact disciplined. And she may well have deserved it.
His actions can only result in spending more of my tax dollars. It will be expensive to hire and train his replacement.
I’m sure the young man’s personnel file will reflect comment’s about him not being able to control his emotions and the effect that has on the department. Public employees should have enough judgment to realize that blocking a hamburger drive thru, doesn’t warrant physically removing a mouthy old lady.
He’ll understand discipline, when he’s guarding some empty bank on the night shift.
I understand where you’re coming from. However, once a policeman gives an order, whether or not the offender agrees, it must be followed or suffer the consequences. It is then up to a court to decide what if any action will be taken after that.
Policemen are figures of authority, and should be respected. By everyone. If a policeman asks me to do something, I’m going to do it! If I have a problem with it, then I’ll deal with it appropriately through the courts later. If we have every Tom, Dick and Harry questioning every command from a police officer, no one would ever obey them.
Also, by the same token, had Granny just simply obeyed, we wouldn’t be talking about this now!
Don’t know exactly what happened. I’ve heard different stories.
I’ve also seen some pretty belligerent old people as well. I saw the news clip, and the Granny came off as some sweet old lady. I doubt very seriously that’s how she acted on the night in question.
Should the cop have arrested her? Don’t know. If she absolutely refused to move, and absolutely refused what the police was requesting of her, then yes. Even grandma is not immune to discipline!
Discipline? Cops are not there to discipline. The Courts discipline.
Yes, disciplined. Just as a child is spanked or sent to time out, granny was in fact disciplined. And she may well have deserved it.
His actions can only result in spending more of my tax dollars. It will be expensive to hire and train his replacement.
I’m sure the young man’s personnel file will reflect comment’s about him not being able to control his emotions and the effect that has on the department. Public employees should have enough judgment to realize that blocking a hamburger drive thru, doesn’t warrant physically removing a mouthy old lady.
He’ll understand discipline, when he’s guarding some empty bank on the night shift.
I understand where you’re coming from. However, once a policeman gives an order, whether or not the offender agrees, it must be followed or suffer the consequences. It is then up to a court to decide what if any action will be taken after that.
Policemen are figures of authority, and should be respected. By everyone. If a policeman asks me to do something, I’m going to do it! If I have a problem with it, then I’ll deal with it appropriately through the courts later. If we have every Tom, Dick and Harry questioning every command from a police officer, no one would ever obey them.
Also, by the same token, had Granny just simply obeyed, we wouldn’t be talking about this now!
As I understand it the woman was in the McDonald’s parking lot, which is private property. Thus, unless a person in authority @ the McDonald’s specifically complained to the officer that she was obstructing their drive through or something similar, what grounds did he have for hassling her? Because she was waiting in the place she normally waited for her order?
Until we hear from the officer, I guess we’ll just have to call it “over-reacting” on his part.
Don’t know exactly what happened. I’ve heard different stories.
I’ve also seen some pretty belligerent old people as well. I saw the news clip, and the Granny came off as some sweet old lady. I doubt very seriously that’s how she acted on the night in question.
Should the cop have arrested her? Don’t know. If she absolutely refused to move, and absolutely refused what the police was requesting of her, then yes. Even grandma is not immune to discipline!
Discipline? Cops are not there to discipline. The Courts discipline.
Yes, disciplined. Just as a child is spanked or sent to time out, granny was in fact disciplined. And she may well have deserved it.
His actions can only result in spending more of my tax dollars. It will be expensive to hire and train his replacement.
I’m sure the young man’s personnel file will reflect comment’s about him not being able to control his emotions and the effect that has on the department. Public employees should have enough judgment to realize that blocking a hamburger drive thru, doesn’t warrant physically removing a mouthy old lady.
He’ll understand discipline, when he’s guarding some empty bank on the night shift.
I understand where you’re coming from. However, once a policeman gives an order, whether or not the offender agrees, it must be followed or suffer the consequences. It is then up to a court to decide what if any action will be taken after that.
Policemen are figures of authority, and should be respected. By everyone. If a policeman asks me to do something, I’m going to do it! If I have a problem with it, then I’ll deal with it appropriately through the courts later. If we have every Tom, Dick and Harry questioning every command from a police officer, no one would ever obey them.
Also, by the same token, had Granny just simply obeyed, we wouldn’t be talking about this now!
As I understand it the woman was in the McDonald’s parking lot, which is private property. Thus, unless a person in authority @ the McDonald’s specifically complained to the officer that she was obstructing their drive through or something similar, what grounds did he have for hassling her? Because she was waiting in the place she normally waited for her order?
Until we hear from the officer, I guess we’ll just have to call it “over-reacting” on his part.
You may be right in your guess of the policeman overreacting. Again, the issue is whether or not to follow a policeman’s command, and the answer is always, yes! It is not for the offender to decide whether the police is right or wrong at the time. You deal with it appropriately through the courts afterwards.
As I understand it the woman was in the McDonald’s parking lot, which is private property. Thus, unless a person in authority @ the McDonald’s specifically complained to the officer that she was obstructing their drive through or something similar, what grounds did he have for hassling her? Because she was waiting in the place she normally waited for her order?
Until we hear from the officer, I guess we’ll just have to call it “over-reacting” on his part.
You may be right in your guess of the policeman overreacting. Again, the issue is whether or not to follow a policeman’s command, and the answer is always, yes! It is not for the offender to decide whether the police is right or wrong at the time. You deal with it appropriately through the courts afterwards.
No, the arguement I was presenting was whether or not the officer had the right to issue the order in the first place. Unless there is an overt criminal/unlawful act occurring, the officer has no right to “command” someone do to anything on private property unless the owner of the property has requested the officer to intervene.
I don’t recall anyone but the OFFICER complaining about the woman’s behaviour, because he was sitting in line behind her. Nowhere did I see anything about McDonald’s requesting his intervention.
As I understand it the woman was in the McDonald’s parking lot, which is private property. Thus, unless a person in authority @ the McDonald’s specifically complained to the officer that she was obstructing their drive through or something similar, what grounds did he have for hassling her? Because she was waiting in the place she normally waited for her order?
Until we hear from the officer, I guess we’ll just have to call it “over-reacting” on his part.
You may be right in your guess of the policeman overreacting. Again, the issue is whether or not to follow a policeman’s command, and the answer is always, yes! It is not for the offender to decide whether the police is right or wrong at the time. You deal with it appropriately through the courts afterwards.
No, the arguement I was presenting was whether or not the officer had the right to issue the order in the first place. Unless there is an overt criminal/unlawful act occurring, the officer has no right to “command” someone do to anything on private property unless the owner of the property has requested the officer to intervene.
I don’t recall anyone but the OFFICER complaining about the woman’s behaviour, because he was sitting in line behind her. Nowhere did I see anything about McDonald’s requesting his intervention.
And yet again, are you going to second guess a police officer at the time of the altercation in question? Shall we all start doing that, and risk being arrested?
You go right ahead, since you seem to be so knowledgeable on the particulars of the law.
I choose to respect authority and assume that they know more than I do in regard to the law. And if they don’t, and cause me harm or undue emotional/physical distress, then I’ll pursue it in court.
AND, you still are missing the point that grumpy granny could have saved herself a trip to jail, had she just followed instructions! It really is quite simple to do believe it or not.
She TOO could have just turned the other cheek and just moved and done what the policeman told her to do (which she SHOULD have done anyway). Sounds to me that they were both bull headed.
Now, shall we go round and round some more? Over and out.
As I understand it the woman was in the McDonald’s parking lot, which is private property. Thus, unless a person in authority @ the McDonald’s specifically complained to the officer that she was obstructing their drive through or something similar, what grounds did he have for hassling her? Because she was waiting in the place she normally waited for her order?
Until we hear from the officer, I guess we’ll just have to call it “over-reacting” on his part.
You may be right in your guess of the policeman overreacting. Again, the issue is whether or not to follow a policeman’s command, and the answer is always, yes! It is not for the offender to decide whether the police is right or wrong at the time. You deal with it appropriately through the courts afterwards.
No, the arguement I was presenting was whether or not the officer had the right to issue the order in the first place. Unless there is an overt criminal/unlawful act occurring, the officer has no right to “command” someone do to anything on private property unless the owner of the property has requested the officer to intervene.
I don’t recall anyone but the OFFICER complaining about the woman’s behaviour, because he was sitting in line behind her. Nowhere did I see anything about McDonald’s requesting his intervention.
You are correct with this, and there is an internal affairs investigation that is ongoing, so the officer will not be heard from as of yet, nor his department.
In my opinion, this was an overzealous officer who had no right saying to this woman what he did, in order for this to have escalated to the point of an elderly woman getting arrested.
