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Which candidate do you currently support in the 2008 Presidential Campaign?
Hilary Clinton (Dem) 3
Barack Obama (Dem) 6
John Edwards (Dem) 2
Mitt Romney (Rep) 3
Rudolph Giuliani (Rep) 0
John McCain (Rep) 3
Mike Huckabee (Rep) 2
Ron Paul (Rep) 1
Other Republican candidate 2
Other Democrat candidate 0
Minor party candidate 0
Undecided 2
Total Votes: 24
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Posted: 31 March 2008 02:21 PM  
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The latest Gallup Poll released today shows Obama leading Clinton with 52% for Obama and 42% for Clinton. It looks like Obama has weathered the storm of the Wright controversy. Hillary Clinton didn’t help herself with her sleep deprived sniper comment either. Also, Obama received several important endorsements this weekend so it looks like the battle is winding down. Maybe, Hillary can work her way on the ticket as the VP nominee. Otherwise I’ve read rumors that she may be on her way to be the Democratic leader in the Senate.

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Posted: 31 March 2008 08:36 PM  
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I’m afraid this slugfest will continue another 3 months. Hillary ain’t gonna quit - ego is much too large!!!! Slick Willie wants his chance as Ambassador to China for gosh sakes.

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Posted: 31 March 2008 08:55 PM  
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Hey, I’m looking forward to seeing the Clinton tax returns that are supposed to be released soon. I’ve read they have been doing pretty well for themselves these last few years. I wonder what they have disclosed.

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Posted: 01 April 2008 11:18 PM  
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Here are some interesting quotes from Sen. Obama regarding his position on capital gains taxes:

“When I talk to people like Warren Buffet, or others, and I ask them, you know, how much of a difference is it going to be if it’s 20 or 25 percent, they say, ‘Look, if it’s within that range then it’s not going to distort, I think, economic decision making,” said Obama in an interview on March 27 on CNBC’s Closing Bell program.

“I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton, which was the 28 percent. . . my guess would be it would be significantly lower than that. I think that we can have a capital gains rate that is higher than 15 percent,” said Sen. Obama.

“What it will also do is first of all help out the federal Treasury, which is running a credit card up with the bank of China and other countries,” said Obama. “What it will also do, I think, is allow us to make investments in basic scientific research, in infrastructure, in broadband lines, in green energy and will allow us to give some relief to middle class and working class families who have been driving this economy as consumers but have been doing it through credit cards and home equity loans. They’re not going to be able to do that.”

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Posted: 02 April 2008 01:08 PM  
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I read online that Obama was quoted saying the following at a rally this past weekend:

The Illinois senator said: “I’ve got two daughters, 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

Punished with a baby????

I think I know what he means but maybe the statement could have been worded better.  What do the Obama supporters here on the forum think of this?

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Posted: 02 April 2008 01:30 PM  
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I’m more strongly opposed to this option than the view expressed in your quote. In fact, I participated in some Pro-life rallies back in the early 90’s. It is a divisive subject yet is really irrelevant to who should be elected President. It has been brought out of the closet before every election going back as far as I can remember, and then returned there after the voting is done, only to be brought out again for public consumption four years later. I wonder how much legislation regarding this subject has made it to the Presidents desk in the last several years. I bet not much if any.
It has been a pleasant surprise that this election has been different in that it hasn’t been used to divide the electorate as in the past. I’m satisfied with the status quo, where the option is available under restricted circumstances. Regardless of who is elected, this will be the case going forward. Proactive efforts have proven to be moderately successful and hopefully these efforts will continue regardless of who is elected.

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Posted: 02 April 2008 04:26 PM  
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I too have protested in support of the pro life side. But, I agree with wassup. On a practical side, the President has little say in abortion, or right to life for that matter.

Regarding Obama, I really don’t care if he is pro-choice. It’s legal, and I think it should remain legal. I am troubled about those who want to dismiss abortion as another form of birth control. Most would agree that there are some people who should not have children - period - due to emotional and mental health issues.

After the Terry Schiavo fiasco, I have changed my mind on supporting President George W Bush. I think that George W Bush made a fool of himself, and a fool of the pro-life supporters by the way in which he tried to intervene into the Schiavo case.

I feel sorry for the parents of Ms Schiavo, but to say because they are pro-life Catholics that they should override their daughters wishes is wrong. Not every child confides with their parents disagreements over religious issues. I do not believe that Ms Terry Schiavo would have wanted to remain on a ventilator. Since neither me, nor her parents were there, when she stated her wishes to her then husband, we can allow the Courts to wade through the mess.

Regarding the election - I am still undecided. I may roll over to John McCain, if Obama crashes and burns. I am not a Dem; haven’t been a registered Dem since 1975. After Jimmy Carter failed Presidency, I swore I would not vote for another Dem. But Barack has the John F Kennedy charm, that Clinton would never have in a million years.

Either way, unless Barack can unite this country we look at another 4 years of slugging party against party. McCain can’t, Clinton can’t - Obama, maybe....

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Posted: 02 April 2008 05:11 PM  
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"Since neither me, nor her parents were there, when she stated her wishes to her then husband, we can allow the Courts to wade through the mess. “

I don’t suppose there is any point in rehashing the Shiavo issue, but I would not put to much credibility in what her estranged husband had to say in light of the fact that they were on their way to a divorce before the incident that led to her unconsious state. Furthermore, she did not make this alleged statement in any document so there simply was insufficient evidence for the Court to rely on this hearsay evidence.  The Court was grossly negligent in considering the testimony of this man who was intimately involved with another woman by the time he requested the Court pull the plug on his wife.
There have been publicized examples even in the last couple of weeks where defying medical science, coma patients have come back to consciousness. In one case just recently, the family was saying goodbye to their loved one because he was going to be an organ donor, when he suddenly began movement and is now on his way to recovery.
Judges are not appointed by God nor are they elected by the people, they are political appointments with the basis for appointment being cronyism. It is not an institution in which one should should put their “faith.” Everyone would be wiser to remember that. When I consider what the Court did in the Shiavo case and what I have personally experienced and observed, I soon realized there is nothing the Florida Courts it its present form is incapable of doing.

Regarding the Bush family on this issue, it is truly admirable that both stood up for what was right. When Jeb sent FDLE officers down there to Tampa, I wish President Bush would have sent the National Guard or the Marines and saved that girl.

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Posted: 02 April 2008 05:41 PM  
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You’ve just reminded me why I used to be such a strong supporter of the Republicans. I’m still going with Obama this time though.

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Posted: 02 April 2008 05:43 PM  
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No way was I placing my faith in the Court.

I was simply stating that George W Bush made a mockery of justice; I will never again support George W Bush. As far as Schiavo, I believe that the Courts were in a position to decide. I didn’t say I thought that the Courts were right or wrong.

I just don’t believe that the Schiavo case should have become political banter for Bush. My feeling are that this situation where someone dies with out a living will, the next in line is the spouse, not the parents. They were legally married, not legally separated or divorced. Emotion aside, the family law prevailed.

Never again would I vote for a Bush or his brother, yet I have voted for them in the past.

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Posted: 02 April 2008 06:00 PM  
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Look, we obviously are not going to agree on that but I will say that blood is thicker than water. Also, once one sees first hand that it is largely a myth that at the County and Circuit levels in Florida the Rule of Law is adhered to then one’s perceptions begin to evolve.

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Posted: 02 April 2008 06:01 PM  
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tongue wink

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Posted: 02 April 2008 07:05 PM  
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Obama’s endorsements continue to roll in with the Governor of New Mexico and the Senator from Minnesota being the latest that I’ve heard.

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Posted: 06 April 2008 06:36 PM  
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It truly is a shame that the Clinton campaign is not paying their bills in a timely manner as I’m sure the providers of goods and services to her campaign attempted to meet or exceed the expectations of their customer/client. In light of the Clinton tax returns which shows the Clintons reported $109 million in income from 2000-2008 and earned $20 million in 2006, it is particularly shameful. I guess when the campaign needs an infusion of cash for something she values, she is more than willing to loan the campaign money. But, when people who have worked for her needs to be paid, well, they can wait.

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Posted: 08 April 2008 02:19 PM  
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The latest Quinnipiac University poll of Democratic voters in Pennsylvania shows Clinton leading Obama 50% to 44%. Since mid-March this lead has shrunk from 12% to 9% and now to 6%. According to the poll data, he is making inroads into Clinton’s support among female voters and has the majority of the under 45 vote, while she maintains her lead in the over 55 voters. If he can continue to to gain on her until the primary and pull out even a narrow victory, perhaps she will withdraw and he can devote his full attention to McCain.

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