oh thank you bad krusty.
you’re not my type but love ya anyway.

Good example of a thread with ok intentions being too toxic. It seemed to attract anger rather than open debate.

I don’t really see the anger.  Sheriff Gee’s cohorts want to pretend he is a-ok.  Others disagree vehemently.

What other way is there to express that?

Sheriffs SHOULD NOT endorse JUDGES.  Why is it so tough to see the problem there?

You arrest a guy selectively and get him in front of ‘your’ endorsed judge.

Is everybody able to follow that along?

How did that become the only point in here? Is that all he’s done that’s improper?

I tend to wonder about people who defend criminals.
Do you have respect for ANY kind of law enforcement or law enforcement personnel?
Have you ever put your life on the line for someone totally unkown to you.

I highly doubt it.

Are there bad apples in every line of work in the world?  Of course.  A great Supervisor is one who delegates and depends on his subordinates to report to him and do their job.  NO PERSON can oversee 100 % of the time EVERY aspect of an operation as large as the Sheriff’s Department of Hillsborough County.

You claim to have done research on Sheriff Gee, but you obviously did not do a very thorough job or either you purposely only remark on things you think would tear him down.

Do you bother to do any where near as much research on the people on the other end?
Before you jump ...I am not saying you do not.  Just remarking on what you choose to put here in public.

Are you related to this *wheelchair person*?
Do you have personal experience of being trreated incorrectly by the Sheriff’s department?
How many times have you spoken well of something the police departments have done right?
How many times have you ever told them thank you?

You try to turn everything into a political stance of Democrat versus Republican.
Do you not see anything wrong with things the Democrats are caught red handed doing?
They are both just as bad as the other. Only difference is one thinks if you do the crime you should do the time.

Frankly I think all political parties should be abolished.  It serves no purpose any longer.

I think everyone should vote on the same day.That would solve all the bickering over whose vote counts the most.

The Electoral college should be dissolved. We do not use horse and rider to gather the votes any longer.

There is too much there to even try to reply.  Take a deep breath, and try to stay inside the lines.

Amazed - 18 April 2008 06:22 PM

I tend to wonder about people who defend criminals.
Do you have respect for ANY kind of law enforcement or law enforcement personnel?
Have you ever put your life on the line for someone totally unkown to you.

I highly doubt it.

Are there bad apples in every line of work in the world? Of course. A great Supervisor is one who delegates and depends on his subordinates to report to him and do their job. NO PERSON can oversee 100 % of the time EVERY aspect of an operation as large as the Sheriff’s Department of Hillsborough County.

You claim to have done research on Sheriff Gee, but you obviously did not do a very thorough job or either you purposely only remark on things you think would tear him down.

Do you bother to do any where near as much research on the people on the other end?
Before you jump ...I am not saying you do not. Just remarking on what you choose to put here in public.

Are you related to this *wheelchair person*?
Do you have personal experience of being trreated incorrectly by the Sheriff’s department?
How many times have you spoken well of something the police departments have done right?
How many times have you ever told them thank you?

You try to turn everything into a political stance of Democrat versus Republican.
Do you not see anything wrong with things the Democrats are caught red handed doing?
They are both just as bad as the other. Only difference is one thinks if you do the crime you should do the time.

Frankly I think all political parties should be abolished. It serves no purpose any longer.

I think everyone should vote on the same day.That would solve all the bickering over whose vote counts the most.

The Electoral college should be dissolved. We do not use horse and rider to gather the votes any longer.

I think we have TOO MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS to begin with.
Most of these jobs like the sheriff, judges, tax assessors. etc. to me should have the best qualifications for the job not the popularity. Our lives and money depend on it. If tax assesor dosen’t correctly assess our house we can over or underpay money. Many good candidates for these jobs would rather not go through the election process. You can’t even pee crooked without someone reporting it. It could be hard to be fair being an elected officials. Your job does depends on votes so it could end up a little dicey at times. All those paybacks.
I still think we need a basic two party system but it needs to be more well defined. I would also like to have more definitive voting days around the nation. There are too many elections run at any given time for anyone to remember. Maybe a national school election day,primary and general election. It would be easier to remember to vote. I do agree with a standard election days.
I do beleive we need to dissolve the electoral college and super delegates. The Peoples vote should be the only thing that counts. How different would everything would have been had Al Gore been President. We may have hard a cleaner nation by now. The rich may have been paying their fair share. The middle class would be doing better than ever. We might still have a balanced budget. We may even have better Health Insurance for all by now. They ruined that reality and Florida with their inability to understand how to count votes. National election day might not help us but at least we need divine help in vote counting. Or we need to get rid of the Legislators that are standing in the way for great Change in Florida’s future. Guns at work what a joke. We elected these officials. How long do you think they will last? Maybe we will need a emergency election before someone gets killed just going to work.

dissolving the electoral college would be a terrible mistake.  The founders were extremely wise in using it as part of their framework.  Only with that system in place can you guarantee that even the smallest state will have a chance to make a real difference.  Without it, only a few cities could easily pick the next president, and to hell with the rest of the country.  No, I say its been working just fine.
As for the ‘guns to work’ bit, like the MSM you’re talking about things you know nothing about -or just purposely misrepresenting it (more likely).  Allowing the law-abiding conceal/carry holder to keep a firearm locked in their car in the parking lot is HARDLY a ‘guns to work’ bit.  Besides, what in the world makes you think the criminal element gave a damn about the law?  The only people that were restricted were law-abiding citizens.  One other point on that:  It was perfectly legal for you to keep a gun locked in the glovebox BEFORE the legislation passed, as well.  The only reason the legislation made its way into the system was to keep employers from targeting gun owners.  Like most of your kind, you’re creating fear from nothing.

cavedog - 18 April 2008 10:45 PM

There is too much there to even try to reply.  Take a deep breath, and try to stay inside the lines.

You are right.  I’m sorry for going off topic,.  I started another mesage so this one can stay pure.

My bad. Thanks for correcting me.