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Posted: 21 March 2008 08:37 AM  
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2bfree - 20 March 2008 10:05 PM

Hitler used the exact same logic you are using to establish the states right over parents to educate children, look how well that turned out. 

Godwin’s Law.

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Posted: 21 March 2008 10:28 AM  
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Stuka - 21 March 2008 06:10 AM

There are many other rights that children have that are protected by the government. An example is health care. In most states the law prohibits withholding lifesaving medical treatment for children that are unable to make an informed decision. California is simply enforcing the law on the books at the present time. If you don’t like it, change the law.

Parents that wish to incorporate values/ideals into their child curriculum, have the option of assigning additional time after school and on weekends to fill in any gaps.

“California is simply enforcing the law on the books at the present time.” end quote

There are many laws on the books of probably every state, that are not enforced.  They’re not enforced for many reasons, mostly because they’re outdated.

Again, why does California suddenly care about home schooling?  In a state where anything goes!

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Posted: 21 March 2008 10:35 AM  
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MICHAELAJV - 20 March 2008 09:20 PM

The problem with having parents be certified, is that it would cost them 10000 to do so!  Absolutely ridiculous.

Especially when there is a double standard being applied here.  The teachers in a private school do not have to be certified.  How can you force then, parents to be?

As long as the home-schooled children are tested and proven to be on par with the traditionally schooled children, there really should be no problem.

I wonder what the true agenda is for the state of California?  As liberal as California is about everything else, something just is not adding up.

Perhaps we are moving commas around here (lawyers term for proofing beyond what is needed).  I am not for certification of parents that wish to homeschool their children.  I just feel that there needs to be a certain level of education required, be it a standardized text or routine exams.  My whole driving motivation is to produce a productive member of society.  While in certain areas homeschooling goes beyond the normal academics, there is a valid argument (in my view) that there is a social element that is missing.  How we deal with others can be even more important that what we know in some situations.  If anyone wants to perform in a job that has a compensation beyond 200K, then social skills are paramount.  Most notably are leadership skills.  You don’t simply tell people what to do.  You have to lead them.  You manage staplers.  You lead people.  Which means you have to know how to deal with people.  All kinds of people. 

You don’t get that from a book.

“I just feel that there needs to be a certain level of education required” end quote

I’ll agree with that.

It was discussed earlier, and agreed, that there is a certain amount of stunted growth in the social aspect of home-schooling.  That negative side is minor, compared to the possible problems/social/drugs/violence that can be encountered at public schools.  Teachers in many cases have trouble controlling students.  Largely because of the lack of respect on the students part, and legally, teachers’ hands are tied more and more.  AND it seems that, going by the news reports, we have to worry about the teachers themselves keeping their perverted hands off of our children!

I’d tackle the issue of stunted social growth over the other problems any day!

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Posted: 21 March 2008 01:25 PM  
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I’d tackle the issue of stunted social growth over the other problems any day! big surprise

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Posted: 21 March 2008 02:23 PM  
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Stuka - 21 March 2008 01:25 PM

I’d tackle the issue of stunted social growth over the other problems any day! big surprise

Stunted social growth in a home schooled student, is a problem that can be easily rectified Stuka.

Don’t be such a drama queen.

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Posted: 21 March 2008 03:46 PM  
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MICHAELAJV - 21 March 2008 02:23 PM

Stuka - 21 March 2008 01:25 PM
I’d tackle the issue of stunted social growth over the other problems any day! big surprise

Stunted social growth in a home schooled student, is a problem that can be easily rectified Stuka.

That is what he said/implied/stated.

Don’t be such a drama queen.

That’s not drama.  This is drama!!!!!!

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Posted: 21 March 2008 04:22 PM  
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MICHAELAJV - 21 March 2008 02:23 PM

Stuka - 21 March 2008 01:25 PM
I’d tackle the issue of stunted social growth over the other problems any day! big surprise

Stunted social growth in a home schooled student, is a problem that can be easily rectified Stuka.

Don’t be such a drama queen.

Goofy kid aren’t easily ungoofed like some machine. So, rectifying stunted social growth is like applying a software patch just before the kid goes out into the world?

“Billy2.0 will easily and seamlessly integrate well with other people now.”

Don’t be surprised if the early version isn’t returned fairly soon. Don’t turn his room onto that sewing room too soon.

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cavedog - 21 March 2008 03:46 PM

MICHAELAJV - 21 March 2008 02:23 PM
Stuka - 21 March 2008 01:25 PM
I’d tackle the issue of stunted social growth over the other problems any day! big surprise

Stunted social growth in a home schooled student, is a problem that can be easily rectified Stuka.

That is what he said/implied/stated.

Don’t be such a drama queen.

That’s not drama.  This is drama!!!!!!

Uh huh, I’ll give ya drama!

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Posted: 21 March 2008 04:51 PM  
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Stuka - 21 March 2008 04:22 PM

MICHAELAJV - 21 March 2008 02:23 PM
Stuka - 21 March 2008 01:25 PM
I’d tackle the issue of stunted social growth over the other problems any day! big surprise

Stunted social growth in a home schooled student, is a problem that can be easily rectified Stuka.

Don’t be such a drama queen.

Goofy kid aren’t easily ungoofed like some machine. So, rectifying stunted social growth is like applying a software patch just before the kid goes out into the world?

“Billy2.0 will easily and seamlessly integrate well with other people now.”

Don’t be surprised if the early version isn’t returned fairly soon. Don’t turn his room onto that sewing room too soon.

Stuka, you SO go on.  You deserve what you get sometimes.

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Posted: 21 March 2008 05:47 PM  
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GO on? LOL

Pot kettle black.

Have a nice evening.

It’s all well earned, my dear.

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