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Posted: 07 October 2008 11:30 AM  
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Horribly shameful!

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Posted: 07 October 2008 12:41 PM  
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Burt - 07 October 2008 10:37 AM

ILovePickles - 06 October 2008 11:19 PM
wassup - 06 October 2008 10:49 PM
pickles,
Was that you who fled with your tail between your legs? LOL, just kidding of course. cheese

I didn’t go anywhere.  I’m waiting for some of your answers to some of my questions sir.

Wassup, dear confused, depleted, and abused wassup. Have you run out of material son? Sounds like you have. Like John McCain you’re resorting to nastyness, and old hash.
I really don’t understand why we waste time having a one sided conversation with you. Maybe we feel sorry for you, I don’t know, you try so hard, but you’re out classed by so many here on the forum. Why do you keep coming back for more abuse? Alrightythen....SLAP.... SLAP....do you want another?

Why don’t you stop wasting space with your nonsense, burt? You really are too old for this sort of behavior.

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Posted: 07 October 2008 05:40 PM  
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Hey Wassup, I came across a really well-written article about how John McCain could pull this election out and come from behind to win.  The author interviewed three very smart, very well-connected high-ranking Republican strategists who laid-out exactly what McCain needed to do to change the course of this race.  It was very informative and actually made me believe that McCain could win this thing.

I decided to post it here, just out of the goodness of my heart and because you conservative guys could use a little good news and inspiration, but then I remembered how you and Magopt and Stablemaster despise any cut and paste stories, so I ditched it.  Too bad, I can’t seem to recall where I saw it now. Hmmmm? Let me think.  Guess I’ll have to get back to you.  Maybe on November 5th?

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Posted: 07 October 2008 06:05 PM  
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CaveDweller - 07 October 2008 05:40 PM

Hey Wassup, I came across a really well-written article about how John McCain could pull this election out and come from behind to win.  The author interviewed three very smart, very well-connected high-ranking Republican strategists who laid-out exactly what McCain needed to do to change the course of this race.  It was very informative and actually made me believe that McCain could win this thing.

I decided to post it here, just out of the goodness of my heart and because you conservative guys could use a little good news and inspiration, but then I remembered how you and Magopt and Stablemaster despise any cut and paste stories, so I ditched it.  Too bad, I can’t seem to recall where I saw it now. Hmmmm? Let me think.  Guess I’ll have to get back to you.  Maybe on November 5th?

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ROFLMAO!
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Posted: 07 October 2008 08:51 PM  
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CaveDweller - 07 October 2008 05:40 PM

Hey Wassup, I came across a really well-written article about how John McCain could pull this election out and come from behind to win.  The author interviewed three very smart, very well-connected high-ranking Republican strategists who laid-out exactly what McCain needed to do to change the course of this race.  It was very informative and actually made me believe that McCain could win this thing.

I decided to post it here, just out of the goodness of my heart and because you conservative guys could use a little good news and inspiration, but then I remembered how you and Magopt and Stablemaster despise any cut and paste stories, so I ditched it.  Too bad, I can’t seem to recall where I saw it now. Hmmmm? Let me think.  Guess I’ll have to get back to you.  Maybe on November 5th?

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LOL, I’ll google that.

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Posted: 07 October 2008 10:58 PM  
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I read that earlier.  Is this the article?

(It’s actually pretty good).

http://www.politico.com/rogersimon/

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Posted: 08 October 2008 12:18 PM  
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Nope, that’s not it, Pickles.

Hey, did you hear what Biden said in Tampa a few minutes ago?

Talking about how McCain has supported Bush over 90% of the time, he paraphrased Senator Bob Casey: “You can’t call yourself a Maverick, when all you’ve ever been is a sidekick!”

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Posted: 08 October 2008 12:27 PM  
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wassup - 07 October 2008 12:41 PM

Burt - 07 October 2008 10:37 AM
ILovePickles - 06 October 2008 11:19 PM
wassup - 06 October 2008 10:49 PM
pickles,
Was that you who fled with your tail between your legs? LOL, just kidding of course. cheese

I didn’t go anywhere.  I’m waiting for some of your answers to some of my questions sir.

Wassup, dear confused, depleted, and abused wassup. Have you run out of material son? Sounds like you have. Like John McCain you’re resorting to nastyness, and old hash.
I really don’t understand why we waste time having a one sided conversation with you. Maybe we feel sorry for you, I don’t know, you try so hard, but you’re out classed by so many here on the forum. Why do you keep coming back for more abuse? Alrightythen....SLAP.... SLAP....do you want another?

Why don’t you stop wasting space with your nonsense, burt? You really are too old for this sort of behavior.

I’m just playing catch with you wazzy. You try to burn one to me, I burn it back faster and harder. Not my fault you don’t have the right stuff. Quit whining now, or I’m going to throw the dreaded wussyup heater at you. It might even turn into a bean ball on your end.

I know you are, but what am I? Credit Pee Wee Herman.

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Posted: 08 October 2008 12:49 PM  
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CaveDweller - 06 October 2008 08:07 PM

Why did John McCain Sell Out to Big Oil?  Ask Charles Keating

By Joseph Romm

October 6, 2008

John McCain’s new coziness with Big Oil is in many respects just a replay of his old coziness with Charles Keating. In both cases, money and access bought influence. Let’s start with oil.

Last month, Time reported that McCain tapped a “prominent Washington lobbyist,” William E. Timmons Sr., to run his transition, should he win the election. Who does Timmons and Company lobby for? As of this year, they are getting about $100,000 a quarter from the American Petroleum Institute (API)

More than 20 top McCain advisers and fundraisers have lobbied for Big Oil, including Charlie Black, Senior Political Adviser (whose clients include Occidental, Yukos Oil, Chinese National Off-Shore Oil Corp.) and Wayne Berman, National Finance Co-Chairman (Hess, Chevron, Texaco, API).

What does the access get Big Oil? Let’s see. McCain has almost completely walked away from the climate issue (see “Turns out McCain doesn’t care about global warming"). He picked Big Oil’s dream VP, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. And, of course, back in July, as the Washington Post headline blared, “Industry Gushed Money After Reversal on Drilling”:


Oil and gas industry executives and employees donated $1.1 million to McCain last month—three-quarters of which came after his June 16 speech calling for an end to the ban—compared with $116,000 in March, $283,000 in April and $208,000 in May.



That is a lot of quid for a lot of quo, a lot of cash for trashing his image as an environmentalist or as a reforming maverick. Of course, we’ve seen that the environmental image was always a pure fraud.

Yet, the image of McCain as someone who fights against lobbyists, rather than cozies up to them, is also a complete fraud, as the sordid story of the Keating Five makes clear.

The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences.

In 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee found that McCain had exercised “poor judgment” for meeting with federal regulators on Keating’s behalf. Others members of the Keating Five were found to have acted improperly. Many independent observers thought all five got off lightly, especially McCain, who had far closer ties to Keating than the others.



McCain’s incredibly close ties with Keating foreshadow his incredibly close ties with lobbyists today, especially with the oil industry. Consider just how cozy Keating was to McCain:

McCain was the closest socially to Keating of the five senators.... Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. In addition, McCain’s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard Keating’s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.

So McCain’s unethical behavior today in his campaign, his cozy relationship with lobbyists and industry fat cats whose agenda he pushes, is nothing new.

It is time for everyone, including the media, to stop pushing the myth that McCain is now or has ever been a maverick or a reformer.

YAWWWWNNNNNN!!!! Oh s#!t, I must have fallen asleep again reading CD’s copy and paste material.

Hey Burt, read my quote, this one is for you.

How about a nice big cup of shut the hell up?

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Posted: 08 October 2008 01:12 PM  
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Thanks for the flowers Maggy. I truly hope that you feel better now.

No matter how rude and nasty you get, I still love you maggy because you’re one of my fellow Americans. What I dislike a little bit about you is what you stand for. I can separate you the person, from the ideology you’ve adopted.  I haven’t completely give up hope that you can be saved from the clutches of Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and others who would steal you soul.

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Posted: 08 October 2008 08:20 PM  
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Maggie is cool.  She just needs to chill and go with the flow sometimes.  cool smile

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ILovePickles - 08 October 2008 08:20 PM

Maggie is cool.  She just needs to chill and go with the flow sometimes.  cool smile

She’s cool cool smile

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Posted: 08 October 2008 08:38 PM  
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Maybe so, but you wouldn’t know it from reading the hateful bile she spewed-out on Page 29 of Burt’s “Who’s Sarah Palin” thread.

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CaveDweller - 08 October 2008 12:18 PM

Nope, that’s not it, Pickles.

Hey, did you hear what Biden said in Tampa a few minutes ago?

Talking about how McCain has supported Bush over 90% of the time, he paraphrased Senator Bob Casey: “You can’t call yourself a Maverick, when all you’ve ever been is a sidekick!”

OUCH!

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ILovePickles - 08 October 2008 08:41 PM

CaveDweller - 08 October 2008 12:18 PM
Nope, that’s not it, Pickles.

Hey, did you hear what Biden said in Tampa a few minutes ago?

Talking about how McCain has supported Bush over 90% of the time, he paraphrased Senator Bob Casey: “You can’t call yourself a Maverick, when all you’ve ever been is a sidekick!”

OUCH!

Slammy!

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