From Deborah Lipstadt’s Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory regarding the key Holocaust deniers and minimizers who are not clearly and obviously Nazis or Neo-Nazis.
In other words below is factual information regarding those generally known not to wear Nazi clothing, have Nazi tattoos, etc. Extracts from pages 137-156—the chapter is titled “The Institute for Historical Review.”
Their efforts to present an academic and scholarly veil is primarily the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), founded in 1978 in California by William David McCalden, with the great assistance of Willis A. Carto.
McCalden uses pseudonyms, e.g. Sondra Ross, David Berg, Julius Finkelstein, and David Sanford. However McCalden, the real person, was born in Belfast, Northern Ireland in 1951. He received his teaching certificate from the University of London. He was known in England for his neofacist and extremist involvements. A former officer of England’s right-wing extremist party, the National Front, he edited antisemitic and racist publications in England prior to coming to the United States.
An admitted racist, McCalden was denied membership in the English National Union of Journalists because of what was termed his “racist politics.”
McCalden claimed to have been converted to Holocaust denial by reading Richard Harwood’s Did Six Million Really Die? In 1978 he moved to California, where initially he worked for the antisemitic journal the American Mercury. According to McCalden, when he saw that the magazine and everything associated with it were moribund, he helped found the IHR to spread the “gospel” of Holocaust denial. He served as IHR director from 1978 until 1981.
What probably garnered IHR’s most publicity was an offer in 1979, that was later collected via litigation, of $50,000 to anyone who “could prove that the Nazis operated gas-chambers to exterminate Jews during World War II.”
The IHR’s ideology can be directly linked to one of its founders and primary financial supporter, Willis A. Carto, who was also the founder and treasurer of the Liberty Lobby, a well established ultra-right organization that has a direct connection with other antisemitic publications, including American Mercury, Washington Observer Newsletter, and Noontide Press. At one point IHR, Noontide Press, and the American Mercury all shared the same post office box. This same network is known for its anti-Israel publications, many of which contain details of a “World Zionist conspiracy.”
For further background on Spotlight and the way certain members of Congress have chosen to cooperate with it, see Mark Hosenball, “Spotlight on the Hill,” New Republic, September 9, 1981, pp. 13-14.
Willis A. Carto was born in 1926 in Indiana. After serving in the army he attended college and then moved to San Francisco to work for a finance company as a debt collector. For a short while he was associated with the John Birch Society, until he had a falling out with the founder, Robert Welch.
According to a former editor at the Liberty Lobby, Carto’s antisemitic activities were too extreme even for Robert Welch, a known antisemite himself, who personally fired Carto. See Joseph Trento and Joseph Spear, “How Nazi Nut Power Has Invaded Capitol Hill,” True, November 1969, page 39.
In 1958 Carto organzied a “pressure group for patriotism,” which eventually emerged as the Liberty Lobby.
A former chairman of the Liberty Lobby’s Board of Policy acknowledged that by the 1980s its annual income was close to four million dollars. The Liberty Lobby’s antisemitic, anti-Zionist newspaper, Spotlight claims a circulation of more than 300,000. When it reached this goal in 1981, it celebrated by holding a gala reception at the National Press Club in Washington.
According to Mark Hosenball’s “Spotlight on the Hill,” page 13, the Liberty Lobby is so extreme that it is “estranged from even the fringes of the far right.”
The investigative columnist Drew Pearson described Carto as a Hitler “fan” and the Liberty Lobby as “infiltrated by Nazis who revere the memory of Hitler.”
The Wall Street Journal has identified Carto and the Liberty Lobby as antisemitic. For more information, please see Jason Berry, “Carto’s Day in Court,” Cleveland Plain Dealer, September 14, 1991, pp. 1-D, 4-D.
When Carto and the Liberty Lobby sued the Wall Street Journal for calling them antisemites, the District Court of Columbia ruled against them and concluded that it would be difficult to imagine a case in which the evidence of antisemitism was “more compelling.” See Liberty Lobby, Inc., v. Dow Jones & Co., Inc.,638 F.Supp. 1149, 1152 n. 5 (D.D.C. 1986), affirmed, 838 F.2nd 1287 (D.C. Cir 1988) cert denied, 488 U.S. 825 (1988), cited in Appellant’s Opening Brief, Mel Mermelstein v.s Legion, page 5.
From Deborah Lipstadt’s Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory regarding just some of the evidence that proves that the Nazis used gas chambers to exterminate millions:
Extracted from pages 225-229 from the paperback version:
Holocaust deniers, lead by Robert Faurisson, repeatedly call for “one proof...one single proof” of the existence of homicidal gas chambers.
They dismiss the reliability of all human testimony (unless it agrees with them), whether it came from the SS, surviving inmates, or Sonderkommando members. They do so despite the fact that regarding the general details of gassings, the testimony of all the parties tends to corroborate each other.
Jean-Claude Pressac’s monumental study is, in essence, a response to this demand. Pressac’s sensitivity to Faurisson’s demand for documents may be rooted in the fact that Pressac almost was lured into denial and it was his own archival investigation which proved to him that Faurisson was consciously ignoring unequivocal evidence of homicidal gas chambers.
Since the publication of his book Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers (1989), he has spent time in former Soviet archives and has uncovered additional documents that demonstrate the absolute falsehood of the deniers’ claims that there is no material or documentary proof of the gas chambers.
Some examples that include work orders, supply requisitions, time sheets, engineering instructions, invoices, completion reprots, including much documentation from Topf and Sons, the company contracted to design and install the execution gas chambers. Topf and Sons documentation includes their own reports, that of their subcontractors, and civilian employees submitted to the SS. They generally make it appear as if they were building morgues. But they slipped up often enough to provide us with detailed documentation of the construction and installation of the gas chambers:
1. An inventory of equipment installed in Crematorium III called for the installation of one gas door and fourteen showers. These two items were absolutely incompatible one with the other. A gas-tight door could only be used for a gas chamber. Why would a room that functioned as a shower room need a gas-tight door?
2. Pressac calculated the area covered by a single shower head. He used the genuine shower installations in the reception building as a guideline. On the basis of this calculation, Crematorium III, which had a floor space of 210 square meters, should had had at least 115 shower heads, not fourteen.
3. On the inventory drawings, the water pipes are not connected to the showers themselves.
4. On February 13, 1943, an order was placed by the Waffen-SS and Police Central Construction Management for twelve gasdichten Turen (gas-tight doors) for Crematoria !V and V. According to the files in the Auschwitz Museum the work on this order was completed on the 25th of February. On February 28th, according to the daily time sheets submitted by the civilian contractors, the gastight shutters were fitted (Gasdichtefenster versetzten) and installed.
A time sheet of March 2, 1943, submitted by the same firm for work conducted on Crematorium IV, contained the following entry: “concrete floor in gas chamber.” The information on this work order and these two time sheets, when analyzed as a whole, indicate that on March 2, 1943, civilian employees of a German firm officially designated a room in Crematorium IV as a “gas chamber.” It made absolute sense for them to do so because two days earlier they had installed “gastight shutters” in the same room.
5. In a letter of January 29, 1943, SS Captain Bischoff, head of the Auschwitz Waffen-SS and Police Central Construction Management, wrote to an SS major general in Berlin regarding the progress of work on Creamtorium II. In his letter he referred to Vergasungskeller (gassing cellar). Arthur Butz and Faurisson tried to reinterpret the term Vergasung. Butz’s explanation was that it meant gas generation. Faurisson argued that it meant carburetion and the Vergasungskeller designated the room in the basement “where the ‘gaseous’ mixture to fuel the crematorium furnace was prepared. There are fundamental problems with this explanation. Not ony is there a significant amount of documentation which refers to gassing, but, more importantly, the cremation furnaces were coke fired and did not use gas generation.
6. A telegram of February 26, 1943, sent by an SS second lieutenant to one of the firms involved in the construction of the gas chambers, requested the immediate dispatch of “ten gas detectors.” The detectors were to be used to check the efficiency of the ventilation system in the gas chamber.
7. In a book containing the record of work carried out by the metal workshops for the construction and the maintenance of Birkenau Crematorium II, there is an order dated March 5, 1943, requesting the making of “one handle for a gas[tight] door.”
8. In a letter of March 6, 1943, a civilian employee working on the construction of Crematorium II referred to modifying the air extraction system of “Auskleidekeller [undressing cellar] II.” A normal morgue would have no use for such a facility. During March 1943 there were at least four additional references to Auskleidekeller. It is telling that civilians who, according to the deniers, had been brought to Birkenau in January 1943 to work on “underground morgues” repeatedly referred not to morgues but to ventilation of the “undressing cellars.”
9. In the same letter of March 6, 1943, the employee asked about the possibility of preheating the areas that would be used as the gas chamber. But a morgue should not be preheated. It must be kept cool. However, if the room were to function as a gas chamber, then the warmer temperature the faster the Zyklon-B pellet would vaporize.
10. A letter dated March 31, 1943, signed by SS Major Bischoff, contained a reference to an order of March 6, 1943, for a “gas[tight] door” for Crematorium II. It was to be fitted with a rubberized sealing strip and a peephole for inspection. Why would amorgue or a disinfection chamber need a peephole? There were also references in the Crematorium III work orders for gastight doors and for iron bars and fittings for gastight doors.
The deniers, still clinging to their “morgue” theory, claimed that morgues needed gastight doors to prevent odors and infectious germs from spreading. They also claimed the doors were necessary because morgues were disinfected with Zyklon-B. This contradicts basica science since Zyklon-B is an insecticide and not a disinfectant. This argument still does not answer why fourteen shower heads, none of which were connected to a plumbing system, were necessary for a morgue.
11. The inventory of Crematorium II, prepared when the civil firm had completed the conversions on it, contained references to it being fitted with a Gastur and a Gasdichtetur (gastight door).
12. A letter of March 31, 1943, regarding Crematorium III spoke of it having an Gastur, a gas door. Denies argue that this could mean many things. But the inventory attached to the handover documents for the crematorium makes short shrift of this argument. The list states that it has a Gasdichetur, a “gastight door.” One could possibly argue about the meaning of Gastur, but not a gastight door.
13. The deniers assert that Birkenau was designed to serve as a quarantine and hospital camp, not a death camp. They based their argument on architectural drawings of April 1943, which contained plans for a barracks for sick prisoners, a prisoner’s hospital, and a quarantine section. Why would the Nazis build a health camp but a few hundred yards from gas chambers where people were being annihilated on a massive scale, they ask. All this, they assert, indicates that Birkenau was not built as a place of homicide and annihilation.
But there exists another official drawing of an overall plan of Birkenau, completed approximately a year later. The first set of plans, completed in April 1943, described a camp that would house 16,000 prisoners. The drawings a year later show a camp that housed 60,000 prisoners and contained less than half the planned barracks from the preceding year’s plans. The existing barracks housed four times as many people as indicated by the original drawings. Any suggestion of this being a place of healing is contradicted by these conditions.
14. These references to gas chambers and this plan of the camp constitute the kind of proof the deniers claim to be seeking. There is, of course, a myriad of additional documentation regarding deportations, murders, supplies of Zyklon-B, and other aspects of the Final Solution.
For those interested in a book that is the most excellent and most well documented description of the “legal” process of the destruction of the European Jews is by Raul Hilberg. Rather than including eyewitness accounts of the victims, the perpetrators and the collaborators, he focuses on the documents generated by the Nazis themselves.
The Destruction of the European Jews, 3 Volume Set (Third Edition)
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The Destruction of the European Jews is widely considered the landmark study of the Holocaust. First published in 1961, Raul Hilberg’s comprehensive account of how Germany annihilated the Jewish community of Europe spurred discussion, galvanized further research, and shaped the entire field of Holocaust studies.
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Spanning the twelve-year period of anti-Jewish actions from 1933 to 1945, Hilberg’s study encompasses Germany and all the territories under German rule or influence. Its principal focus is on the large number of perpetrators—civil servants, military personnel, Nazi party functionaries, SS men, and representatives of private enterprises—in the machinery of death.
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Paul you are also calling Norman Finkelstein a liar?
He is exposing the Jews who are using the “holocaust” to extort money from wherever they can get it. They have made an industry of it.
You might also want to look at this one.
How much Us $$$$ to Israel?
And are you in favor of this?
Or do you think that this money could have been better spent here at home?
Who is more important to you; US Citizens or Israeli Jews?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8A6oXdjkhY&feature=related
How about Ernst Zundel
Shame on Germany for their detested Holocaust Lobby Protection
Paragraph imprisoning revisionist researchers for “thought crimes” ! -
Weg mit dem verabscheuten deutschen Gesetz zum Schutz der
Holocaust-Lobby - mißbraucht zur Inhaftierung von Revisionisten
wegen “Gedankenverbrechen” !-
http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/zundel.html
Robert Faurisson
Robert Faurisson, 60, suffered broken jaw and ribs and severe head injuries in the attack by three Jewish thugs while walking his dog in Vichy, Sep 17, 1989
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Faurisson/
Paul, do you think people should go to jail for questioning the “holocaust” event?
People deny Jesus all the time. In the last 100 years anyway, none of them have been treated so badly as these people have been.
Why do you suppose that is?
So, just who are the haters here? The researchers seeking the Truth, or those who do not want investigations at all?
The Jews stand to gain if there are no investigations, don’t they?
They stand to lose a lot if Their Story is revealed as Falsse, don’t they?
If you really want the truth read both sides of the story.
From Deborah Lipstadt’s Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory regarding just some of the evidence that proves that the Nazis used gas chambers to exterminate millions:
Extracted from pages 225-229 from the paperback version:
Holocaust deniers, lead by Robert Faurisson, repeatedly call for “one proof...one single proof” of the existence of homicidal gas chambers.
They dismiss the reliability of all human testimony (unless it agrees with them), whether it came from the SS, surviving inmates, or Sonderkommando members. They do so despite the fact that regarding the general details of gassings, the testimony of all the parties tends to corroborate each other.
Jean-Claude Pressac’s monumental study is, in essence, a response to this demand. Pressac’s sensitivity to Faurisson’s demand for documents may be rooted in the fact that Pressac almost was lured into denial and it was his own archival investigation which proved to him that Faurisson was consciously ignoring unequivocal evidence of homicidal gas chambers.
Since the publication of his book Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers (1989), he has spent time in former Soviet archives and has uncovered additional documents that demonstrate the absolute falsehood of the deniers’ claims that there is no material or documentary proof of the gas chambers.
Some examples that include work orders, supply requisitions, time sheets, engineering instructions, invoices, completion reprots, including much documentation from Topf and Sons, the company contracted to design and install the execution gas chambers. Topf and Sons documentation includes their own reports, that of their subcontractors, and civilian employees submitted to the SS. They generally make it appear as if they were building morgues. But they slipped up often enough to provide us with detailed documentation of the construction and installation of the gas chambers:
1. An inventory of equipment installed in Crematorium III called for the installation of one gas door and fourteen showers. These two items were absolutely incompatible one with the other. A gas-tight door could only be used for a gas chamber. Why would a room that functioned as a shower room need a gas-tight door?
2. Pressac calculated the area covered by a single shower head. He used the genuine shower installations in the reception building as a guideline. On the basis of this calculation, Crematorium III, which had a floor space of 210 square meters, should had had at least 115 shower heads, not fourteen.
3. On the inventory drawings, the water pipes are not connected to the showers themselves.
4. On February 13, 1943, an order was placed by the Waffen-SS and Police Central Construction Management for twelve gasdichten Turen (gas-tight doors) for Crematoria !V and V. According to the files in the Auschwitz Museum the work on this order was completed on the 25th of February. On February 28th, according to the daily time sheets submitted by the civilian contractors, the gastight shutters were fitted (Gasdichtefenster versetzten) and installed.
A time sheet of March 2, 1943, submitted by the same firm for work conducted on Crematorium IV, contained the following entry: “concrete floor in gas chamber.” The information on this work order and these two time sheets, when analyzed as a whole, indicate that on March 2, 1943, civilian employees of a German firm officially designated a room in Crematorium IV as a “gas chamber.” It made absolute sense for them to do so because two days earlier they had installed “gastight shutters” in the same room.
I would like to have answers to a few questions from Ture Believers.
If indeed the Nazis wanted to exterminate the Jews:
1. Why did they build camps with housing for them?
Wouldn’t a lot of them just freeze to death without housing?
2 Why did they feed them?
For folks who were hell-bent on killing Jews wouldn’t it have been a simple matter to just
let them starve to death. Those who didn’t freeze would starve.
Simple, & efficient.
3. Considering the above solution, Why would they go to the expense of using valuable resources to build gas chambers?
4. Why would they go to the expense of building crematories?
Do you have any idea of how much fuel those crematories would have to use to burn up 6 million bodies, and how long it would take?
Alternatively to the above, wouldn’t it have been simple, easy and efficient to go to the countryside and dig several large pits, surround them with a fence and barbed wire, post a few guards and then run those railroad cars to the area; unload the passengers into the pits and just leave them.
When they are alll dead bring in the dozers and cover them up.
So tell me why all the extravegant measures, buildings, heat, food. clothing etc.?
You do realize that Germany at the time was fighting a big war on Two Fronts don’t you?
So why exactly would they go to all this trouble to kill Jews?
5. In a letter of January 29, 1943, SS Captain Bischoff, head of the Auschwitz Waffen-SS and Police Central Construction Management, wrote to an SS major general in Berlin regarding the progress of work on Creamtorium II. In his letter he referred to Vergasungskeller (gassing cellar). Arthur Butz and Faurisson tried to reinterpret the term Vergasung. Butz’s explanation was that it meant gas generation. Faurisson argued that it meant carburetion and the Vergasungskeller designated the room in the basement “where the ‘gaseous’ mixture to fuel the crematorium furnace was prepared. There are fundamental problems with this explanation. Not ony is there a significant amount of documentation which refers to gassing, but, more importantly, the cremation furnaces were coke fired and did not use gas generation.
6. A telegram of February 26, 1943, sent by an SS second lieutenant to one of the firms involved in the construction of the gas chambers, requested the immediate dispatch of “ten gas detectors.” The detectors were to be used to check the efficiency of the ventilation system in the gas chamber.
7. In a book containing the record of work carried out by the metal workshops for the construction and the maintenance of Birkenau Crematorium II, there is an order dated March 5, 1943, requesting the making of “one handle for a gas[tight] door.”
8. In a letter of March 6, 1943, a civilian employee working on the construction of Crematorium II referred to modifying the air extraction system of “Auskleidekeller [undressing cellar] II.” A normal morgue would have no use for such a facility. During March 1943 there were at least four additional references to Auskleidekeller. It is telling that civilians who, according to the deniers, had been brought to Birkenau in January 1943 to work on “underground morgues” repeatedly referred not to morgues but to ventilation of the “undressing cellars.”
9. In the same letter of March 6, 1943, the employee asked about the possibility of preheating the areas that would be used as the gas chamber. But a morgue should not be preheated. It must be kept cool. However, if the room were to function as a gas chamber, then the warmer temperature the faster the Zyklon-B pellet would vaporize.
10. A letter dated March 31, 1943, signed by SS Major Bischoff, contained a reference to an order of March 6, 1943, for a “gas[tight] door” for Crematorium II. It was to be fitted with a rubberized sealing strip and a peephole for inspection. Why would amorgue or a disinfection chamber need a peephole? There were also references in the Crematorium III work orders for gastight doors and for iron bars and fittings for gastight doors.
The deniers, still clinging to their “morgue” theory, claimed that morgues needed gastight doors to prevent odors and infectious germs from spreading. They also claimed the doors were necessary because morgues were disinfected with Zyklon-B. This contradicts basica science since Zyklon-B is an insecticide and not a disinfectant. This argument still does not answer why fourteen shower heads, none of which were connected to a plumbing system, were necessary for a morgue.
11. The inventory of Crematorium II, prepared when the civil firm had completed the conversions on it, contained references to it being fitted with a Gastur and a Gasdichtetur (gastight door).
12. A letter of March 31, 1943, regarding Crematorium III spoke of it having an Gastur, a gas door. Denies argue that this could mean many things. But the inventory attached to the handover documents for the crematorium makes short shrift of this argument. The list states that it has a Gasdichetur, a “gastight door.” One could possibly argue about the meaning of Gastur, but not a gastight door.
13. The deniers assert that Birkenau was designed to serve as a quarantine and hospital camp, not a death camp. They based their argument on architectural drawings of April 1943, which contained plans for a barracks for sick prisoners, a prisoner’s hospital, and a quarantine section. Why would the Nazis build a health camp but a few hundred yards from gas chambers where people were being annihilated on a massive scale, they ask. All this, they assert, indicates that Birkenau was not built as a place of homicide and annihilation.
But there exists another official drawing of an overall plan of Birkenau, completed approximately a year later. The first set of plans, completed in April 1943, described a camp that would house 16,000 prisoners. The drawings a year later show a camp that housed 60,000 prisoners and contained less than half the planned barracks from the preceding year’s plans. The existing barracks housed four times as many people as indicated by the original drawings. Any suggestion of this being a place of healing is contradicted by these conditions.
14. These references to gas chambers and this plan of the camp constitute the kind of proof the deniers claim to be seeking. There is, of course, a myriad of additional documentation regarding deportations, murders, supplies of Zyklon-B, and other aspects of the Final Solution.
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If you really want the truth read both sides of the story.
I have.
The “other side” lacks historical value as it is historical fantasy as an effort to rehabiliate Adolph Hitler and the Nazis—as well as others of their ilk like the Ku Klux Klan.
In other words, there is not an authentic “other side”. Such an argument consists of lies. It is misrepresentations. It is distortions. It is ignoring the confluence of the facts from Nazi documents and the testimony of the eyewitnesses, be they the surviving Jews and their sympathizers, the Nazis and their sympathizers, and the other people of a wide variety of nationalities, political convictions, theological convictions, et al.
I would like to have answers to a few questions from Ture Believers.
If indeed the Nazis wanted to exterminate the Jews:
1. Why did they build camps with housing for them?
Wouldn’t a lot of them just freeze to death without housing?
Some of the camps were labor camps. Some of the camps were for other than Jews, e.g. POWs, Slavs. Millions of the prisoners, including most especially the captive Russians, did starve and freeze to death. So did many Jews.
2 Why did they feed them?
For folks who were hell-bent on killing Jews wouldn’t it have been a simple matter to just
let them starve to death. Those who didn’t freeze would starve.
Simple, & efficient.
See reply to your first set of questions. Most were served calories below the amount needed to survive.
3. Considering the above solution, Why would they go to the expense of using valuable resources to build gas chambers?
See reply to your first set of questions. The labor was essentially free: The prisoners.
4. Why would they go to the expense of building crematories?
The Final Solution in the most efficient and secretive manner.
Do you have any idea of how much fuel those crematories would have to use to burn up 6 million bodies, and how long it would take?
Just read the literature on how the Nazis were able to accomplish such. The studies have been done. The witnesses attest. The Nazi documents attest.
Alternatively to the above, wouldn’t it have been simple, easy and efficient to go to the countryside and dig several large pits, surround them with a fence and barbed wire, post a few guards and then run those railroad cars to the area; unload the passengers into the pits and just leave them.
When they are alll dead bring in the dozers and cover them up.
This was indeed one of the solutions used for The Final Solution. There were many different types of solutions utilized by the Nazis.
So tell me why all the extravegant measures, buildings, heat, food. clothing etc.?
See my above replies and read the literature.
You do realize that Germany at the time was fighting a big war on Two Fronts don’t you?
So why exactly would they go to all this trouble to kill Jews?
Read Adolph Hitler’s writings and speeches.
Just answer the questions.
Briefly answered. For more information, read the literature that I reference in my postings—as they are just the tip of the iceberg. In these books are thousands of footnotes referring to other books, articles, documents, etc.
Paul, tell me why would the Nazis go to such great lengths and expense of all this building and buying supplies for their alleged extermination project when they could do it for so much less as I eplained above?
Why are you ignoring the simplest of all final solutions?
It wouldn’t make a very long story would it?
And not many people would be writing books, as there simply would not be much to write.
Without all the complicated descriptions of the so-called death chambers etc and all the personal stories, the dead would soon be forgotten and the Jews would not have many images to fill your mind to elicit sympathy. And there would be no Holocaust Industry.
Paul, tell me why would the Nazis go to such great lengths and expense of all this building and buying supplies for their alleged extermination project when they could do it for so much less as I eplained above?
Why are you ignoring the simplest of all final solutions?
It wouldn’t make a very long story would it?
And not many people would be writing books, as there simply would not be much to write.
Without all the complicated descriptions of the so-called death chambers etc and all the personal stories, the dead would soon be forgotten and the Jews would not have many images to fill your mind to elicit sympathy. And there would be no Holocaust Industry.
Oh Zone,
Your problem is that you are not willing to accept the facts of history.
Your sympathies are with Adolph Hilter.
Why else would anyone question the realities of history as demonstrated by so much documentary, physical and testimonial evidence?
Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt as the defendants in the case brought by David Irving consulted a number of experts, which the primary ones are listed below, along with some of their publications that were obtained via Amazon.com. The authors’s articles appear in various journals.
Robert Jan Van Pelt
Architectural Principles in the Age of Historicism (1993)—co-author Carroll William Westfall
Science of Holocaust Research and the Art of Holocaust Denial (1999)
The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial (2002)
Auschwitz (2002)—co-authro is Deborah Dwork
Holocaust: A History (2003) --co-author is Deborah Dwork
Flight from the Reich: Refugee Jews, 1933-1946 (2009)—co-author Deborah Dwork
Richard J. Evans
Feminist Movement in Germany 1894-1933 (1976)
The German Working Class, 1888-1933: The Politics of Everyday Life (1982)
The Feminists: Women’s Emancipation Movements in Europe, American & Australiasia 1840-1920 (1985)
The German Peasantry: Conflict and Community in Rural Society from the Eighteenth to the Twentieth Centuries (1986)
Comrades and Sisters: Feminism, Socialism and Pacifism in Europe, 1870-1945 (1987)
The German Unemployed: Experiences and Consequences of Mass Unemployment from the Weimar Republic to the Third Reich (1987)
The German Underworld: Deviants and Outcasts in German History (1988)
Rethinking German History: Nineteenth Century Germany and the Origins of the Third Reich (1990)
Proletarians and Politics: Socialism, Protest and the Working Class in Germany Before the First World War (1991)
Tales from the German Underworld: Crime and Punishment in the Nineteenth Century (1998)
In Defense of History (1999)
Rituals of Retribution: Capital Punishment in Germany 1600 to 1987 (1999)
Lying About Hitler: History, Holocaust, and the David Irving Trial (2002)
The Coming of the Third Reich (2005)
The Third Reich in Power, 1933-1939 (2005)
The Unknown Hitler: Notes from the Young Nazi Party (2005) --- co-author
Rereading German History (2007)
The Third Reich at War (2009)
And numerous other books in English and German.
Christopher R. Browning
The Final Solution and the German Foreign Office: A Study of Referat D III of Abteilung Deutschland, 1940-43 (1978)
Nazi resettlement policy and the search for a solution to the Jewish question, 1939-1941 (1986)
Nazi ghettoization policy in Poland: 1939-41 (1986)
Fateful Months: Essays on the Emergence of the Final Solution (1991)
Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland (1993)
The Path to Genocide: Essays on Launching the Final Solution (1995)
From the Ashes of Sobibor: A Story of Survival (1997) co-author
Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers, German Killers (2000)
Collected Memories: Holocaust History and Post-War Testimony (2003)
A History of the Third Reich (2003) co-author
A History of the Third Reich - Primary Sources (2003) co-author
Initiating the Final Solution: The fateful months of September-October 1941 (2003)
The Origins of the Final Solution: The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy, September 1939-March 1942 (2007)
Every Day Lasts A Year: A Jewish Family’s Correspondence from Poland (2007)
Remembering Survival: Inside a Nazi Slave-Labor Camp (2010)
Peter Longerich
Propagandisten im Krieg: Die Presseabteilung des Auswartigen Amtes unter Ribbentrop (Studien zur Zeitgeschichte) (German Edition) (1987)
Die Ermordung Der Europaischen Juden: Eine Umfassende Dokumentation Des Holocaus (1989)
Die braunen Bataillone: Geschichte der SA (German Edition) (1989)
Hitlers Stellvertreter: Fuhrung der Partei und Kontrolle des Staatsapparates durch den Stab Hess und die Partei-Kanzlei Bormann (German Edition) (1992)
Deutschland 1918-1933: Die Weimarer Republik ; Handbuch zur Geschichte (German Edition) (1995)
Politik der Vernichtung: Eine Gesamtdarstellung der nationalsozialistischen Judenverfolgung (German Edition) (1998)
Die Wannsee-Konferenz Vom 20. Januar 1942: Planung und Beginn des Genozids an den europaischen Juden (1998)
Wannsee Conference and the Development of the Murder of the European Jews (1999)
Der ungeschriebene Befehl. Hitler und der Weg zur Endlösung (2001)
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The Unwritten Order: Hitler’s Role in the Final Solution (2003)
Geschichte der SA. Geschichte der SA. (2003)
Davon haben wir nichts gewusst! (2007)
Heinrich Himmler (2008)
Holocaust: The Nazi Persecution and Murder of the Jews (2010)
Hajo Funke
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Jetzt sind wir dran: Nationalismus im geeinten Deutschland : Aspekte der Einigungspolitik und nationalistische Potentiale in Deutschland (German Edition) (1991)
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More extractions from “Religion and the Origins of the Death Camps: A Psychoanalytic Interpretation” by Professor Richard L. Rubenstein in the 1992 edition of his book “After Auschwitz”.
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The Deicide Accusation:
The Christian religion , alone among the religions of the world, begins with a murder—the murder of God.
It’s decisive symbol is the cross, the instrument of execution by which the deicide was carried out. In Christian thought the Jews play a twofold role: they provide both the incarnate Deity and His murderers....
The emotions undergirding the deicide accusation and the competing claims of election resemble those of sibling rivalry. The terrible accusation, “You have murdered or wanted to murder the Father,” implies, “therefore you are wholly unfit to be his beloved child.” Because Jesus is God, the Son of God, in Christian theology, the violence done to his person is equally violence against God the Father....
The Jews made an extraordinary claim about themselves—that they were in a special and decisive way God’s Chosen People. Instead of ridiculing it, a very large portion of the non-Jewish world took the claim seriously....
...[O]ne of the oldest conflicts between Jew and Christian is the question of who is truly the elect of the Lord....
Through no one’s fault, the denial of Jesus by the Jews, whether spoken or unspoken, was a greater threat to the Christian belief system than the nonbelief of any other people....
They were not seen as the defeated and impotent people they were, lacking a normal political life of their own; instead, the very marginality of their existence elicited mythical interpretations....
The terrible significance of the deicide accusation cannot be over-emphasized: In this system if God is dead, the Jews are his murderers. At the extremely important vulgar level, the cry of “Christ-killer” has, more often than not, accompanied the instigation of anti-Semitic violence....
Well-meaning Christians often deny that they are taught that Jews are the Christ-killers. They claim they are taught that all men and women are responsible through their sins for the death of Christ. Unfortunately, they attempt to share the blame is of doubtful efficacy. Though all many have been responsible from the religious point of view, the actual deed is irrevocably depicted in the Gospels as having been committed by members of an identifiable historical community....
Pontius Pilate is depicted as offering the Jews the opportunity to choose Jesus or Barabbas for release from the death penalty. The Jews chose Barabbas. Pilate insists that he finds no fault with Jesus. He washes his hands of the affair and permits the execution. The onus of guilt is clearly placed upon the Jews.
In Matthew the Jews are depicted as replying to Pilate’s protestations of innocence: “His blood be upon us and our children” (Matt 27:25). The murder of God is thus depicted as a continuing source of guilt of the Jewish posterity.
The explosive significance of the crucifixion story as a myth of the death of God is illuminated by Ivan Karamazov’s remark in Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov, “If God does not exist, all things are permitted.” In both Judaism and Christianity, all moral restraints are ultimately derived from God’s lordship over creation.
The wish to murder God is the terminal mythical expression of humanity’s ineradicable temptation to moral anarchy. Given the Judeo-Christian view of God as the ultimate source of moral legitimation, a world without God would be a world with no impediment to the gratification of desire, no matter how perverse of anarchic. The perversity of the human heart finds its ultimate expression in the myth of the murder of God.
The accusation that a people is deicidal implies that they are utterly beyond all law and moral restraint....
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The Devil and the Jews:
During the Middle Ages, the identification of Jews as moral anarchists was intensified by the further identification of the Jew with the Devil and the Antichrist. These identifications were already implicit in the crucifixion story and the rivalry between the two religious communities.
The identification of the Jews with the Devil is explicit in the Fourth Gospel, in which Jesus is depicted as saying to those who reject his mission: “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.... You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him.... But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.” (John 8:42-45).
In medieval Europe, the Jews were the only people who openly and successfully resisted Christianity. The Saxons tried and failed. Since the Jews were the one people resident in Europe who had seen the Christ and beheld his passion, their stubborn refusal to acknowledge him was ascribed to the supernatural power of their satanic master.
The only other group that continuously resisted Christianity was the witch cult. The Jews were thus depicted as openly worshiping the blackest of masters, whose non-Jewish devotees, by contrast, were depicted as at least having the decency to pay their homage in secrecy....
No imagined crime was too heinous to be ascribed to them. As they had been guilty of the crucifixion, they were regarded as symbolically repeating the crime by the sacrificial murder of Christian victims, especially at Passover time.
The blood libel has persisted down to our own times and was used by the Nazis....
For the radical anti-Semite, there is only one solution—the extermination of the Jews. This is ritual murder made morally acceptable to the perpetrator by the deicide accusation.
